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Post by Ace on May 24, 2015 11:28:39 GMT 1
Since we need a thread to discuss the Elite 4 and Champion as well.
My ideas on what types to give each Elite 4 member based on Snaquaza's gym suggestions:
1: Grass-type. Hasn't been done before which is why I'd like to see a member of the Pokemon League specializing in this type. 2: Fire-type. A pretty common type that players should be able to have counters for by now. 3: Fairy-type. The newest type, would be cool to see it being implemented into the Elite 4. 4: Flying-Type. Since there is practically no mono-flying type Pokemon except for Tornadus, this will be more challenging.
Champion: Mixed team. Champion most likely has the pseudo legendary.
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Post by herndonchad on May 26, 2015 13:32:50 GMT 1
An idea that i proposed a while ago:
Since the purpose of the elite four is to test the ultimate ability of a trainer if He/she is to become champion, I propose we do themed teams instead of typings.
1.Rain team, primarily water types with electric mixed in 2.Sun team, mix of fire and grass types 3.Sand team, Rock/ground/steel (elite 4 member could be introduced in story while in the desert) 4.Hail team, primarily ice (again, could be met near Everest if we want story integration)
Champion: Inverse battle with a somewhat competitive team (not too incredibly imposible though), including the regions psuedo lenendary/ies
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Post by Ace on May 26, 2015 15:25:45 GMT 1
Themed teams are interesting and it works well with weather since there is four types.
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Post by Snaquaza on May 26, 2015 15:48:07 GMT 1
I have to say that I like the idea of themed or at least competitive teams for the E4. Whether that's a weather, or stall / balance / ho, I don't really mind, but it'd be awesome to make it an actual challenge.
That said, if we make it a "competitive" team, opinions on items being disallowed (like Potion, X Attack), but you get your health restored after each battle?
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Post by herndonchad on May 26, 2015 16:10:03 GMT 1
I have to say that I like the idea of themed or at least competitive teams for the E4. Whether that's a weather, or stall / balance / ho, I don't really mind, but it'd be awesome to make it an actual challenge. That said, if we make it a "competitive" team, opinions on items being disallowed (like Potion, X Attack), but you get your health restored after each battle? I think we might want to have a cpu warning of the extreme challenge the elite 4 possesses. With that being said, I think the only change we should make is having a Nurse to heal before the champion. Otherwise, the champion, etc. should probably just stick with the conventional number of full restores as usable items.
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Post by Ace on May 26, 2015 20:40:35 GMT 1
We shouldn't have a nurse in the Elite 4 or before the Champion, wouldn't sit right with me at all. The player should've gotten many healing items by this point anyway.
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Post by Snaquaza on May 26, 2015 20:42:38 GMT 1
The idea was disallowing those items, to make it more challenging.
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Post by herndonchad on May 27, 2015 3:50:37 GMT 1
The idea was disallowing those items, to make it more challenging. To face five straight members with competitve teams and no way to heal is quite the daunting task, unless you mean no healing items in battle, which is more reasonable
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Post by jaywad on May 27, 2015 5:57:46 GMT 1
Well, if we're gonna do the weather-themed idea, we should make each E4 room contain this weather. By this i mean when you enter the sandstorm room it's all sandy and wind blowing everywhere, thus creating a sandstorm once you talk to the person. Same goes for the other rooms. Also, we should make it that the weather effects don't go away since their whole team is based on a weather condition.
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Post by Snaquaza on May 27, 2015 6:11:00 GMT 1
The idea was disallowing those items, to make it more challenging. To face five straight members with competitve teams and no way to heal is quite the daunting task, unless you mean no healing items in battle, which is more reasonable Which is why they proposed a nurse / healing after each battle.
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Post by Ace on May 29, 2015 2:19:00 GMT 1
I had skimmed this thread before, personally I'd rather have items and no nurse. Also I was thinking...how about users from here taking part in a contest in order to be an Elite 4 member?
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Post by jaywad on May 29, 2015 2:31:28 GMT 1
That'd be awesome
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Post by Yellow Skarmory on Jun 1, 2015 4:37:04 GMT 1
I think that the e4 shouldn't have any restrictions on types, and be able to use whatever types they want. and they be part of the villainous team.
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Post by amitghosh on Jun 13, 2015 14:48:55 GMT 1
I would say give the e4 references to the region, and the region is based on india. One type i would definitely like to see in the e4 is the Psychic type. India is a greatly spiritual country, and it is the birthplace of many religions and great saints. The Indian epic Mahabharata, which involves the battle of Kurukshetra, has various incidents of psychic power such as fake sunsets. Yoga was also born in India. Hence, I would like to see the psychic type in the e4
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Post by Ruby on Jun 13, 2015 22:53:33 GMT 1
E4s Psychic Type: Could be a Buddhist Monk-esque E4, would be fun to see one considering there are many Monks in India. This one could be their tribe leader and could also guide you during your journey. Poison Type: Hasn't been done before. Lived on the polluted streets until he found his signature Poison Type Pokemon. Could be a fun E4 too Fire Type: Harsh Summers, could be an athlete or something like that. Brother of Ice Type E4 Ice Type: Harsh Summers, could also be an athlete. Brother of Fire Type E4
Champion: 2 Pseudo Legends + Cover Legend + 3 competitive mons for a challenging battle.
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Post by Devoxys on Jun 14, 2015 13:03:18 GMT 1
Personally, I like the weather themed teams and the balanced champion. If we don't, maybe we should used a team archetype E4: 1.Hazard Stack 2. Volt-Turn 3. Hyper Offense 4. Stall Champion: Balance
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Post by Salient on Jul 3, 2015 19:25:53 GMT 1
Poison Type: Hasn't been done before. Lived on the polluted streets until he found his signature Poison Type Pokemon. Could be a fun E4 too
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Post by Ruby on Jul 4, 2015 10:52:04 GMT 1
Oh, Koga is E4.
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Post by silverwhiteblue on Jul 6, 2015 6:55:04 GMT 1
i Really Really like Snaquaza 's suggestion on no items allowed mid battle but i think you should recover with just ur items after battle not a nurse that restores as that actually was the most enjoyable part of the E4, really testing the player's indepedance (even if it's money related here) and capacity to play with a disadvantage of injured pokemon. As for the types , weather seems pretty cool, but maybe we can do Ace 's suggestion which is pretty nice but electric>fire 1-Electric 2-flying 3-fairy 4-grass champion : pseudo legendary + balance
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Post by cat on Jul 20, 2015 18:08:09 GMT 1
Ok. I think there should be a Fairy type E4, a Normal type E4, a Dragon type E4 and an ice type E4 And for there teams Fairy Type: The ace: Gardevoir(Mega) , A sylveon, a florges and an azumarill (For rematch, add Clefable and granbull) Normal type: The ace: Lopunny(Mega) , Porygon-Z, Ursaring and Audino (For rematch, add Ambipom and Miltank) Dragon Type: The ace: Salamence(Mega), Flygon, Garchomp and Dragonite (For rematch, add hydragon and a Goodra) Ice type: The Ace: Abomasnow(Mega), Frosslass, Mamoswine and Vanniluxe (For rematch, add Glalie and Cryoganal) Champ: Ace: Milotic(Mega if we can make it happen ), THe pseudo-legend, a Gallade, Spiritomb and a Fossil Pokemon (Add another Fakemon For rematch) This is a suggestion so you don't have to use it, but i'd like to see it . Hope you like it!!!
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Post by silverwhiteblue on Jul 21, 2015 6:18:19 GMT 1
There was a thought on making them competitive, so the pokemon we will be using will have to be a bit stronger. When the type is settled we may discuss them i suppose. In the meanwhile why not strawpoll it?
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Post by Devoxys on Jul 22, 2015 1:06:20 GMT 1
Ok. I think there should be a Fairy type E4, a Normal type E4, a Dragon type E4 and an ice type E4 And for there teams Fairy Type: The ace: Gardevoir(Mega) , A sylveon, a florges and an azumarill (For rematch, add Clefable and granbull) Normal type: The ace: Lopunny(Mega) , Porygon-Z, Ursaring and Audino (For rematch, add Ambipom and Miltank) Dragon Type: The ace: Salamence(Mega), Flygon, Garchomp and Dragonite (For rematch, add hydragon and a Goodra) Ice type: The Ace: Abomasnow(Mega), Frosslass, Mamoswine and Vanniluxe (For rematch, add Glalie and Cryoganal) Champ: Ace: Milotic(Mega if we can make it happen ), THe pseudo-legend, a Gallade, Spiritomb and a Fossil Pokemon (Add another Fakemon For rematch) This is a suggestion so you don't have to use it, but i'd like to see it . Hope you like it!!! Umm I think we should focus on the Fakemon we make for the E4... Also, could you please explain why you want those types and order? If you provide some reasoning we might use it!
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Post by cat on Jul 23, 2015 16:49:25 GMT 1
The order deos not madder and maybe you should replace two pokemon with fakemon and the dragon type, for the fact that it's like Drake, a challenge but not to much of one with fairy types, normal and fairy cause they are unique types that have not been used as an e4 and ice cause most ice types are underlooked and underused There Devoxys that's why
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Post by Devoxys on Jul 24, 2015 1:48:30 GMT 1
I'm surprised no one has brought this up yet:
If we are not doing the E4 on Weather Teams or Team Archetype, then the E4 types need to be different than the Gym types.
The Gym Types are (in order): Fighting, Electric, Poison, Steel, Dark, Ice, Water, and Ground. This leaves: Fire, Grass, Psychic, Ghost, Normal, Fairy, Rock, Dragon, Bug, and Flying. Looking at these available types in depth: 1. Fire: Past E4 Members/Champions: Flint, Malva; Total: 2 2. Grass: Past E4/Champions: None; Total: 0 3. Psychic: Past E4/Champions: Will, Lucian, Caitlyn; Total: 3 4. Ghost: Past E4/Champions: Agatha, Phoebe, Shauntal; Total: 3 5. Normal: Past E4/Champions: None; Total: 0 6. Fairy: Past E4/Champions: None; Total: 0 7. Rock: Past E4/Champions: None; Total: 0 8. Bug: Past E4/Champions: Aaron; Total: 1 9: Flying: Past E4/Champions: None; Total: 0 10: Dragon: Past E4/Champions: (*breathes in*): Lance, Lance, Drake, Iris, Drasna; Total: 5
Looking at this, the best types would be Grass, Normal, Fairy, Rock and Flying.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 7:12:53 GMT 1
I'm surprised no one has brought this up yet: If we are not doing the E4 on Weather Teams or Team Archetype, then the E4 types need to be different than the Gym types. The Gym Types are (in order): Fighting, Electric, Poison, Steel, Dark, Ice, Water, and Ground. This leaves: Fire, Grass, Psychic, Ghost, Normal, Fairy, Rock, Dragon, Bug, and Flying. Looking at these available types in depth: 1. Fire: Past E4 Members/Champions: Flint, Malva; Total: 2 2. Grass: Past E4/Champions: None; Total: 0 3. Psychic: Past E4/Champions: Will, Lucian, Caitlyn; Total: 3 4. Ghost: Past E4/Champions: Agatha, Phoebe, Shauntal; Total: 3 5. Normal: Past E4/Champions: None; Total: 0 6. Fairy: Past E4/Champions: None; Total: 0 7. Rock: Past E4/Champions: None; Total: 0 8. Bug: Past E4/Champions: Aaron; Total: 1 9: Flying: Past E4/Champions: None; Total: 0 10: Dragon: Past E4/Champions: (*breathes in*): Lance, Lance, Drake, Iris, Drasna; Total: 5 Looking at this, the best types would be Grass, Normal, Fairy, Rock and Flying. Here are cool E4 names. Like my gym leader names, these are all puns. I am doing the ones I think should be E4. Nathan (Grass) (Male) Nora (Normal) (Female) Fawkes (Flying) (Male) Rocherre (Rock) Female) Also, like my gym leader names, there are an equal amount of boys and girls.
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