[ti]Approved[/ti]Antagon + Antonize

[Galom]

At least the formatting is good now. Until Underdog gets stamped or rejected, I can't approve or reject this. I still don't like how similar it is to Durant (stat-wise), but at least most other things look acceptable now.

[Cyberknight98]

So like always, I'm waiting on Snaq and Snack

[herndonchad]

With them being the "swarm pokemon" one of their abilities should probably be swarm
EDIT: whoops, i suck

[Cyberknight98]

...herndonchad... it is... >->

[Cyberknight98]

I think I'm going to add another ability to this (Other than Underdog which may or may not be approved.) Here's a list of some moves that I'm considering:

-Tough Claws
-Limber
-Rivalry
-Strong Jaw
-Unnerve

Please tell me which you see most fit.

[jaywad]

I think rivalry would fit best if it's a pokemon agonizing for revenge. Unnerve would work too! But other moves like tough claws and strong jaws are so far given to very exclusive pokemon. They wouldn't really make sense for this Pokemon

[Galom]

I like Unnerve a lot on it. Swarm as the primary ability and Unnerve as the Hidden Ability would do very well, in my opinion.

Don't give it Tough Claws. That's generally reserved for Megas and/or things that have massive claws, which Bugs don't generally possess. They have scythes if anything.

[Cyberknight98]

I'm just going to throw in the towel for Underdog. Galom, thoughts about new abilities? Ready for final approval/thoughts. And yes, I know I still need to work out the egg moves. I just haven't had time.

[Galom]

I like it, for the most part. Get the Egg Moves done, then I'll give one last checklist of my opinions, then I will probably stamp it. You've done a pretty good job here, Cyberknight98.

[Cyberknight98]

Thanks, Galom, your opinion means a lot ^-^

[Cyberknight98]

Finally updated with egg moves, meaning this is 100% complete! If I missed any egg moves you think it should have, let me know, otherwise I'm ready for final approval/changes.

[Galom]

Things you still need to look at:
- I understand that you want a special evolution method, but I don't feel like you pulled it off very well. Pokemon never evolve after a battle if the battle ends while they are knocked out (at least in Gen V and before, idk about Gen VI).
- I'm going to grammar nazi your Pokedex entries, since you did things like using plural forms of Pokemon names, which they never do.

Antagon:
OR: Recognizing their solitary weakness, Antogon live in swarms and outnumber their opponents.
AS: Its sharp mandibles enable it to gnaw through solid steel. Many live in large swarms led by a single Antonize.

Antonize:
OR: Antonize duel for dominion over Antagon swarms. One specimen's reign over a given group rarely lasts multiple months.
AS: It always delivers the finishing blow when leading a swarm of Antagon on a hunt. In number, they prey on even the largest victims.

[jaywad]

Yeah, I thought of the way it evolves, and it might've been hard to evolve it assuming that not all battles have super-effective types. Maybe make it evolve like how Pancham does, or just let it evolve normally.

[Cyberknight98]

Y'know, I've been talking with Catman about possibly linking his fakemon with mine, since one is a bug/ghost type and mine is a bug/dark type... I could ask him if we could have something where they have to interact kind of like Karrablast and Shelmet, or one may have to knock out the other. Thoughts, Galom?

[jaywad]

Well first they'd both have to be approved. That'd be pretty cool, but then you'd have to make some interaction between them when being traded. Karrablast stole shellmet's armor to become escavalier, so try to make something like that

[Cyberknight98]

Otherwise, I can just have it evolve normally at level 25-30 range

[Galom]

Karrablast and Shelmet are supposed to be special like that, and I'd be reluctant to allow another duo to copy them. However, it would depend on how well you pulled it off. You'd have to add a lot of logic behind it.

Consider how Shelmet and Carrablast works: Shelmet sheds its shell and gives it to Carrablast, who wears it as armor. They are highly related. Your two Pokemon do not have this level of relation yet, besides typing. Work it out with him and decide exactly how it works.

So, we'll see. You could potentially copy their gimmick if you pulled it off well, but I am reluctant to allow it.

[Cyberknight98]

How bout we put a pin in the evolution thing for now. If Catman's fakemon gets approved, we can work out some stuff then. I'm going to set it evolving at level 30 for now with no strings attached.

[Snaquaza]

I'm actually wondering why both its attack and speed are this high. Don't feel like you have to change it, but I don't see how a bug like this is that strong. We have stuff like Pinsir and Heracross, but those have obviously very strong parts. Generally bugs aren't that strong.

[Cyberknight98]

They're based off of army ants, which are known to be fast and incredibly strong (Comparatively to their size.) Now what would happen if that army ant grew hundreds of times its size?

[Snaquaza]

Can you give an accurate description of how they look then?

[Cyberknight98]

Their description is in the OC... I'm looking for artists...

[Cyberknight98]

Bumping, I would really like some solid feedback or an outright approval, I want to work on another fakemon.

[Snaquaza]

I still think the stats are too much made to sweep, since I can't imagine the flavor behind it yet. If you could get a good sketch up to show what would influence the attack / speed that'd be awesome.

[Cyberknight98]

Snaquaza, this is what Antagon and Antonize are based off of irl: tinyurl.com/nxwza6l. Yes, that little bastard's giant fangs are going INTO that finger. Plus, Antonize has a large spiked tail and both have claws, plus that age old "Ants are one of the strongest animals on the planet" thing. Sooo yeah, that's where the attack comes from. Also, in my research on ants for this fakemon, I read from multiple sources that if an Ant was the size of a human, it could run Faster than a race horse. The average speed of a race horse is about 45 mph. (And don't you bring up that "Skarmory can go up to 180 mph" bullshit, because the pokedex LIES! )