Saverdien
Charmeleon
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Post by Saverdien on Apr 22, 2015 22:13:08 GMT 1
Elklipse: The Elk Pokemon Type: Dark/Grass Abilities: Nocturnal, Quick Feet 95/115/75/70/75/60 BST: 490
Dex Entry: It lurks in the shadows during the day, waiting for nightfall. At the darkest hour, it bides its energy, increasing its stealth and striking power.
Design:
1. Large set of antlers with more "points" on them. (Elks tend to have an average of 12) 2. Antlers have thorns to resemble a grass type. 3. Large body, large neck, and taller head. (Differentiating between Stantler and Sawsbuck) 4. A black-ish colored body to resemble darkness, with yellow eyes. 5. Grass patches around its body, such as near it's feet and chest-to-neck area. 6. Leaves and Tangela-like weeds circling around abdomen. (Weeds create a circular pattern)
Physical Details:
Height: 5'2 (1.6 meters) Weight: 526 lbs (238.6 kg) Dex Color: Black
Other Details:
Catch Rate: 70 Egg Steps: 3855-5140 Base Happiness: 70 EV Points Yielded: 2 Attack Leveling Rate: 1,059,860 (Medium-Slow) Gender Ratio: 50/50 Body Type: Pokemon with a quadruped body Base Experience Yield: 172
Movepool:
1: Growl 1: Horn Attack 6: Leech Seed 11: Mega Drain 15: Pursuit 19: Razor Leaf 22: Feint Attack 24: Embargo 29: Take Down 34: Horn Leech 39: Synthesis 42: Leaf Blade 45: Double Edge 49: Foul Play 55: Megahorn
TM/HM Moves:
05 Roar 06 Toxic 10 Hidden Power 12 Taunt 15 Hyper Beam 17 Protect 21 Frustration 22 Solar Beam 26 Earthquake 27 Return 32 Double Team 41 Torment 42 Facade 44 Rest 45 Attract 46 Thief 48 Round 53 Energy Ball 56 Fling 66 Payback 68 Giga Impact 70 Flash 75 Swords Dance 86 Grass Knot 87 Swagger 88 Sleep Talk 90 Substitute 94 Secret Power 97 Dark Pulse 100 Confide HM01: Cut
Egg Groups: Field Egg Moves:
Play Rough - Absol, Granbull, Azumarill, Wigglytuff, Liepard, Persian Sucker Punch - Liepard, Bisharp, Absol, Houndour, Houndoom, Girafarig, Mawile, Skitty, Delcatty, Stantler Aromatherapy - Roserade, Sawsbuck, Aromatisse, Jumpluff, Lilligant, Paras, Parasect, Swirlex, Slurpuff Night Slash - Bisharp Foul Play - Absol, Aipom, Ambipom, Houndour, Houndoom, Girafarig, Glameow, Purugly, Pawniard, Scraggy, Scrafty, Purrloin, Liepard Worry Seed - Shroomish, Breeloom, Deerling, Sawsbuck, Chikorita, Bayleef, Meganium, Leafeon, Treecko, Grovyle, Sceptile, Phantump, Trevenant, Turtwig, Grotle, Torterra
Tutor Moves:
Knock Off Giga Drain Seed Bomb Leaf Storm Wood Hammer Trop Kick
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Post by Floette on Apr 22, 2015 22:23:11 GMT 1
This Pokémon is very similar to Cacturne in its base stats, and has a small Level-up movepool. If it's an Elk, it would definitely have Horn Leech as a move. In addition, this Pokémon is almost completely outclassed Gogoat.
My advice: add Pursuit, Horn Leech, Synthesis, Megahorn, Horn Attack as moves that can fix up your gaps. I would say Sucker Punch, but then it is extremely similar to Cacturne.
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Saverdien
Charmeleon
I'm Sav. Retired GC room owner. Now a simple man.
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Post by Saverdien on Apr 22, 2015 23:01:56 GMT 1
Tbh, I completely forgot that Horn Leech was a move :x.
Anyways, I've changed the BST up a bit to try not to bear any close similarities with Cacturne and added the moves you've recommended.
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Post by Floette on Apr 22, 2015 23:13:16 GMT 1
Tbh, I completely forgot that Horn Leech was a move :x. Anyways, I've changed the BST up a bit to try not to bear any close similarities with Cacturne and added the moves you've recommended. It's all good n-n Seed Bomb, Play Rough and Aromatherapy (Egg Move) could be good as well. As for abilities, I'd wait on the input of others but it looks pretty good to me.
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Post by Snaquaza on Apr 23, 2015 6:09:02 GMT 1
Sorry, I have to lock this until your other 'Mons are finished. I'll comment on them soon.
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Saverdien
Charmeleon
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Post by Saverdien on Apr 25, 2015 22:08:04 GMT 1
Idk if I should keep Chlorophyll since the name is wordplay of Eclipse, which is darkness. It'd be the kind of ability that this Poke could use to make it better :x
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Post by Snaquaza on Apr 25, 2015 23:33:26 GMT 1
Hey Sav, you should probably remove chlorophyll yes. I don't really like stuff just to make it better. Honestly consider giving this Hypnosis for fun effects, since it seems like it could do it, but htis is not necessary. How do you think this would make itself different from Stantler (another one with sorta mysterious powers) and Sawsbuck (Grass type deerlike too). Remove Synthesis just like Chlorophyll and maybe get Moonlight? The rest of the moves seems good. Also why does it have this high defenses? It doesn't seem that fitting and significantly raises the BST randomly, since it's quite high right now. The other stats seem fine. (If it's large and is slow because of that, just lower defenses)
You still gotta add a lot of stuff, so do / comment on this and tag me again after you finished everything~
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Saverdien
Charmeleon
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Post by Saverdien on Apr 26, 2015 1:53:54 GMT 1
EDIT: So I've lowered the defenses to get the BST to be not so high and gave it some egg and tutor moves. (Still kinda undecided about those) Anyways, Elklipse would be different from Stantler and Sawsbuck from the moves that they all can learn. I've got Elk learning moves that one or both of them can't learn as well as having different abilities. (Once my other ability ideas have been treated, I'll add one that could be neat) Snaquaza
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Post by Snaquaza on Apr 26, 2015 7:55:18 GMT 1
EDIT: So I've lowered the defenses to get the BST to be not so high and gave it some egg and tutor moves. (Still kinda undecided about those) Anyways, Elklipse would be different from Stantler and Sawsbuck from the moves that they all can learn. I've got Elk learning moves that one or both of them can't learn as well as having different abilities. (Once my other ability ideas have been treated, I'll add one that could be neat) SnaquazaI mean how it's visually different.
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Saverdien
Charmeleon
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Post by Saverdien on Apr 26, 2015 19:06:40 GMT 1
I mean how it's visually different. 1. Elk have larger antlers and more points on them. (Average of 12) So you can have a larger set of antlers on it than Stantler and Sawsbuck 2. Elk have larger bodies, larger necks, and taller heads. You can have those features on the visual design and differ them from Stantler and Sawsbuck 3. Both Stantler and Sawsbuck have a brown/tan colored body, whereas elk usually are dirt brown/white. If we want to have it resemble darkness, you could have its body be a blackish color. And to resemble it being a grass type, you can add patches of grass around it
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Post by jaywad on Apr 26, 2015 19:17:35 GMT 1
I really love your idea, especially since i loved gogoat and sawsbuck alot. You can also make his eyes kind of glow a faint yellow to separate it from gogoat's and sawsbuck's. Then it wouldn't be much of a resemblance
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Post by Crystalites on Apr 26, 2015 19:17:47 GMT 1
I really like this mon. Based on an elk is interesting and it looks cool from the descriptions. I really like the fact that it gets megahorn ;o
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Saverdien
Charmeleon
I'm Sav. Retired GC room owner. Now a simple man.
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Post by Saverdien on May 19, 2015 22:25:40 GMT 1
So I'm pretty much done with this mon. Snaquaza, Galom, thoughts?
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Post by Galom on May 20, 2015 17:00:40 GMT 1
This is good progress.
Fix grammatical errors here and there, expand your technical details, list parents for Egg Moves, etc. Just work on it a bit more; it seems a ways away from completion as-is. Take inspiration from previously-approved Pokemon if you need.
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Saverdien
Charmeleon
I'm Sav. Retired GC room owner. Now a simple man.
Posts: 123
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Post by Saverdien on May 20, 2015 21:53:56 GMT 1
EDIT: I've added the Dex entry, details about the Pokemon, and Egg Move parents. Galom, Snaquaza, with these changes implemented, what are your guys' thoughts about it now?
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Post by Snaquaza on May 20, 2015 22:06:37 GMT 1
What kind of relation does it have to the night / the moon besides being nocturnal?
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Cyberknight98
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Post by Cyberknight98 on May 20, 2015 22:31:36 GMT 1
In my opinion, the dex entry seems kinda... off... considering elks in real life are herbivores... Is it stalking a Carnivine?
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Saverdien
Charmeleon
I'm Sav. Retired GC room owner. Now a simple man.
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Post by Saverdien on May 20, 2015 23:02:30 GMT 1
In my opinion, the dex entry seems kinda... off... considering elks in real life are herbivores... Is it stalking a Carnivine? It's my little variation of Game Freak logic I'll probs change it to something else
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Saverdien
Charmeleon
I'm Sav. Retired GC room owner. Now a simple man.
Posts: 123
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Post by Saverdien on May 21, 2015 1:16:04 GMT 1
What kind of relation does it have to the night / the moon besides being nocturnal? I do have an idea for an idea revolving night/moon but I already have an ability posted in the threads. But if my idea is accepted, then it could be used for this Mon, giving it another relation to the night.
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Post by jaywad on May 21, 2015 18:49:49 GMT 1
If your ability doesn't work out for you, I have a suggestion for a way to make the pokemon seem darkish. For one the yellow eyes can act as night vision, which is why its always hunting at night.
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Post by Ace on May 24, 2015 10:24:49 GMT 1
Just a small thing: I don't see the grass typing being represented much in the design description of this Pokemon, how about making its antlers made up of thorns?
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Saverdien
Charmeleon
I'm Sav. Retired GC room owner. Now a simple man.
Posts: 123
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Post by Saverdien on May 24, 2015 16:46:30 GMT 1
Just a small thing: I don't see the grass typing being represented much in the design description of this Pokemon, how about making its antlers made up of thorns? That's actually not a bad idea. It'll give more representation of being a grass type than just patches of grass around its body.
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Post by Ace on May 24, 2015 21:58:07 GMT 1
Nice, otherwise I'm loving the fantasy feel of this Pokemon. Good job.
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Saverdien
Charmeleon
I'm Sav. Retired GC room owner. Now a simple man.
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Post by Saverdien on May 28, 2015 2:56:43 GMT 1
Snaquaza, Galom, thoughts? Any other changes I should make? (Done otherwise)
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Cyberknight98
Charizard
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Post by Cyberknight98 on May 28, 2015 2:58:45 GMT 1
Why does it have effect spore? That's only given to pokemon related to mushrooms or flowers (The Vileplume, Parasect, Breloom, and Amoonguss lines are the only ones that get it)
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