Move: Arctic Wave

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Move: Arctic Wave May 24, 2015 23:55:02 GMT 1 jaywad likes this

Post by Salient on May 24, 2015 23:55:02 GMT 1

Name: Arctic Wave
Type: Ice (maybe Ice/Water?)
Category: Special
PP: 10 [base] 16 [max]
Power: 100
Accuracy: 75%
Priority: 0
Target: All Adjacent Pokemon
Makes Contact: No
Description: 20% chance to confuse or freeze all targets {Both cannot happen at once}.
Secondary Effect:

Affected by Protect: Yes
Affected by Magic Coat: No
Affected by Snatch: No
Affected by King's Rock: Yes
Affected by BrightPowder: Yes

Pokemon who learn it by Move Tutor: N/A
Pokemon who learn it:
Cloyster, Beartic, Dewgoing, Walrein, Lapras, Glalie, Empoleon, Milotic, Suicune, Fakemons

Last Edit: Jun 25, 2015 22:15:40 GMT 1 by Salient

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Ace Global Moderator Life finds a way Posts: 278	Move: Arctic Wave May 25, 2015 0:36:36 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ace on May 25, 2015 0:36:36 GMT 1 tl;dr it's an Ice Beam buff with lower acc and some extra effects. I'd make the acc 95, 90 is the same as Draco Meteor which misses too often.

Salient Administrator Boss Ass Bitch gay space rocks Posts: 576	Move: Arctic Wave May 25, 2015 1:25:12 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Salient on May 25, 2015 1:25:12 GMT 1 May 25, 2015 0:36:36 GMT 1 Ace said: tl;dr it's an Ice Beam buff with lower acc and some extra effects. I'd make the acc 95, 90 is the same as Draco Meteor which misses too often. Changed. Now 110 power with 95% acc.
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Devoxys Charizard #ForeverHaxed Posts: 940	Move: Arctic Wave May 25, 2015 2:03:42 GMT 1 blackburn009 likes this Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Devoxys on May 25, 2015 2:03:42 GMT 1 And now its Blizzard with a better accuracy and effect >.<.
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Move: Arctic Wave May 25, 2015 13:04:16 GMT 1

Post by blackburn009 on May 25, 2015 13:04:16 GMT 1

Boomburst is pretty much the only move that has 95%+ accuracy with higher base power than your move that doesn't have a drawback

Aeroblast has 95% accuracy, 100 base power, and an increased chance to crit with sacred fire 95% and searing shot having 100% accuracy and chances to burn all being the highest BP moves with a positive effect with high accuracy.
All 3 of these are pretty exclusive moves, with only legendaries having them

I'd remove the hail effect and put it at 100 base power so it is a better ice beam

or 1.5x damage in hail 80 base power 100% accuracy with no extra effect

Last Edit: May 25, 2015 13:05:38 GMT 1 by blackburn009

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Move: Arctic Wave May 25, 2015 13:17:49 GMT 1

Post by Snaquaza on May 25, 2015 13:17:49 GMT 1

I think the idea of this move is to buff hail mostly, and Ice Beam is good enough already and shouldn't be plainly outclassed. My idea would be to make this 70 BP, which doubles in hail. You may change it in other ways too, but if it stays like this I'm gonna reject it since it's too powerful.

Salient Administrator Boss Ass Bitch gay space rocks Posts: 576	Move: Arctic Wave May 25, 2015 22:34:58 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Salient on May 25, 2015 22:34:58 GMT 1 Did that, Snaquaza. Any other changes?
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Snaquaza Administrator Posts: 832	Move: Arctic Wave May 25, 2015 22:45:29 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Snaquaza on May 25, 2015 22:45:29 GMT 1 Seems fine, I'd personally remove the chance to lower SpDef, but I guess its fine. I'd like to hear what Galom thinks before approving though. Looks good though.

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Move: Arctic Wave May 26, 2015 1:55:23 GMT 1

Post by Devoxys on May 26, 2015 1:55:23 GMT 1

Well, I could still argue it is Aurora Beam with Light over Beam, Lowering a different stat, 5 more BP, and the Hail buffing it, but I guess its different enough.

Last Edit: May 26, 2015 1:55:50 GMT 1 by Devoxys

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Galom Global Moderator formerly Gallade Lv. ✘ Everybody's doing their time. Posts: 385	Move: Arctic Wave May 26, 2015 18:14:30 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Galom on May 26, 2015 18:14:30 GMT 1 How does "Aurora" have anything to do with Hail? This doesn't really make sense to me.
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TheBlueFiretruck Charmeleon If you're happy and you know it say amen! clap clap Posts: 114	Move: Arctic Wave May 27, 2015 22:18:00 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by TheBlueFiretruck on May 27, 2015 22:18:00 GMT 1 Moves that can double in power under a certain condition tend to have no secondary effects. I think the name should be tweaked to have more to deal with hail like Galom said, and the SpD drop be... well... dropped.
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Salient Administrator Boss Ass Bitch gay space rocks Posts: 576	Move: Arctic Wave May 27, 2015 22:38:26 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Salient on May 27, 2015 22:38:26 GMT 1 Thanks for suggestions guys! Any other ideas? I'm changing name to (possibilities): Hail Barrage Hail Stream TBD (please suggest things I'm bad with moves). I'm also changing the effect from 20% SpD drop to no secondary effect.
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Ace Global Moderator Life finds a way Posts: 278	Move: Arctic Wave May 28, 2015 1:25:46 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ace on May 28, 2015 1:25:46 GMT 1 What about Sleet Storm, idk.

Salient Administrator Boss Ass Bitch gay space rocks Posts: 576	Move: Arctic Wave May 28, 2015 3:12:46 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Salient on May 28, 2015 3:12:46 GMT 1 Ace I feel like that would be a move that summons Hail
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herndonchad Charmeleon Posts: 182	Move: Arctic Wave May 29, 2015 10:34:49 GMT 1 via mobile Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by herndonchad on May 29, 2015 10:34:49 GMT 1 Since this deals with light and ice, i suggest something involving the Aurora Borealis. This may also be an interesting signature/theme for a legendary (move would need changes).
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Salient Administrator Boss Ass Bitch gay space rocks Posts: 576	Move: Arctic Wave Jun 25, 2015 22:15:52 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Salient on Jun 25, 2015 22:15:52 GMT 1 bump, changed it a bit.
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Move: Arctic Wave Jun 25, 2015 22:17:52 GMT 1 The Run likes this

Post by Psych on Jun 25, 2015 22:17:52 GMT 1

I don't like that it has a chance to do either/or on the secondary effects. I'd remove the Confusion chance, and keep the Freeze chance, as it makes more sense with the move.

This also seems like a higher risk, higher reward Ice Beam.

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Move: Arctic Wave Jun 25, 2015 22:37:29 GMT 1 Psych likes this

Post by The Run on Jun 25, 2015 22:37:29 GMT 1

The name itself confuses me. Arctic wave could be either described as a Ice Tsunami in an icy terrain, or a super cold version of Surf. Also I'm not very satisfied with the 20% Confusion + Freeze possibility. What you could do is reduce both to 5% or take out confusion or freeze status. It seems a bit haxed from my point of view.

Salient Administrator Boss Ass Bitch gay space rocks Posts: 576	Move: Arctic Wave Jun 25, 2015 22:57:21 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Salient on Jun 25, 2015 22:57:21 GMT 1 The Run, the target can't be frozen and confused, and I'm trashing this, just waiting for Snaquaza to lock the thread.
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Salient Administrator Boss Ass Bitch gay space rocks Posts: 576	Move: Arctic Wave Jun 29, 2015 21:59:29 GMT 1 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Salient on Jun 29, 2015 21:59:29 GMT 1 Tagging Galom Snaquaza Ace to lock this thread.
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