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Post by Tazonite on Jun 15, 2015 0:41:57 GMT 1
Have you ever wanted to have a better Electric type move? Too pissed off that Pikachu and Zekrom hog the only powerful Physical Electric moves? Angry that the best Physical Electric type move we have is an Electric Take Down? No? Well then let me ask you this: Do you think I care? No, I don't.
Introducing Electrobash!
Why? I'm creating a Physcially based Electric type, and I want its powerhouse Electric move to be good. So I used Volt Tackle. Yeah, it's Pikachu's signature move, but Leaf Blade used to be Sceptile's signature move, and Sacred Sword used to be the Muskadeers' signature move. But I guess the sacred and all-knowing Pikachu can't survive without Volt Tackle being its precious signature move. So I want to have a more viable Physical Electric type move. If anybody creating a Physical Electric type wanted a strong move, then I think Electrobash would be a decent solution. I have a list of Pokemon that would learn it somehow.
Electrobash
Type: Electric Category: Physical Power Points: 5, Max 8 Base Power: 90 Accuracy: 90% Target: Adjacent Contact? Yes. Description: The user overpowers the target with its strength and electricity. The target's stat changes don't affect this attack's damage. Secondary Effect: Ignores the target's Defense boosts.
Affected By Protect? Yes. Affected By Magic Coat? No. Affected By Snatch? No. Affected By King's Rock? Yes. Affected By BrightPowder? Yes.
Signature Move? No. Pokemon: Magneton Electrode Electabuzz Ampharos Elekid Electrike Manectric Luxio Luxray Magnezone Electivire Blitzle Zebstrika Eelektrik Eelektross Blitzupial Other Fakemons
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txnnyo
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Post by txnnyo on Jun 15, 2015 0:58:14 GMT 1
I loved the introduction LOL, move seems really op (i know it's suppose to be but) you brought up good points about physical electric type moves and pikachu/zekrom hogging them. Maybe give other electric physical attackers this move (Zebstrika line, maybe Eelektross + Ampharos?)
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Twix
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Post by Twix on Jun 15, 2015 1:22:07 GMT 1
Give it to Ampharos, Zebstrika line, and Eelektross, I'd also change the name to something like Swift Surge because I don't like Seize.
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Post by Tazonite on Jun 15, 2015 4:57:30 GMT 1
I loved the introduction LOL, move seems really op (i know it's suppose to be but) you brought up good points about physical electric type moves and pikachu/zekrom hogging them. Maybe give other electric physical attackers this move (Zebstrika line, maybe Eelektross + Ampharos?) No, it isn't OP. Max of 8 PP. And since if Boomburst is balanced, then this can be balanced too. I completely forgot about Eelektross. Give it to Ampharos, Zebstrika line, and Eelektross, I'd also change the name to something like Swift Surge because I don't like Seize. I've updated the distribution with both you and tx's suggestions. I'll see what I can do about the name, but I think Seize Surge is decent. Maybe I'll update it, maybe I won't. If I do change it, it might not be Swift Surge, only because it sounds like a Special move.
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Post by jaywad on Jun 16, 2015 3:43:50 GMT 1
Right now, this is just a physical thunder with 100 accuracy. Find some way to differentiate it with other moves. Maybe make it an electric double-edge move.
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Mirror Bubble
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Post by Mirror Bubble on Jun 16, 2015 10:14:10 GMT 1
You know, I think a physical to special version of pyshock could be viable as an electric move, since rn your move is basically outclassing thunder's lowered accuracy for no particular reason except flavor?
Just an interesting note, this thing beats earthquake by 10 BP and 30% secondary effect. Quite a bit of power creep, which I don't think is that great.
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Post by Psych on Jun 19, 2015 15:44:14 GMT 1
this is just physical Thunder with improved accuracy, give it it's own niche to make it more unique. Also, Electrode, Manectric, and Magnezone need to learn this once you figure out the niche.
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Post by Tazonite on Jun 20, 2015 5:26:23 GMT 1
Right now, this is just a physical thunder with 100 accuracy. Find some way to differentiate it with other moves. Maybe make it an electric double-edge move. That was called Volt Tackle, but some yellow nuisance was hogging it. this is just physical Thunder with improved accuracy, give it it's own niche to make it more unique. Also, Electrode, Manectric, and Magnezone need to learn this once you figure out the niche. Yes, I would definitely like to try to improve this move. But it's hard with Volt Tackle existing. F%cking Pikachu. The niche I'll try is similar to Sacred Sword and Psyshock. You know, I think a physical to special version of pyshock could be viable as an electric move, since rn your move is basically outclassing thunder's lowered accuracy for no particular reason except flavor? Just an interesting note, this thing beats earthquake by 10 BP and 30% secondary effect. Quite a bit of power creep, which I don't think is that great. I can see how that would be a flaw. I think you just thought up of a good niche just now though.
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Post by biaf on Jun 21, 2015 20:33:32 GMT 1
Did you mean to say that it ignored SpDef and Evasion stat BOOSTS?
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Post by Tazonite on Jun 21, 2015 20:42:26 GMT 1
Did you mean to say that it ignored SpDef and Evasion stat BOOSTS? Sure.
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Post by jaywad on Jun 21, 2015 21:48:39 GMT 1
Well, now it reminds me of wild charge, only a little altered and stronger.
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Post by blackburn009 on Jun 21, 2015 23:59:11 GMT 1
Being similar to other moves isn't too bad, you can always compare two moves that are the same type
Ignores SpD boosts? I'd hope so, it's a physical move. Anyway is there any reason why it ignores evasion and defense boosts? Especially because it's not 100% accurate, I know it's similar to sacred sword's mechanics but how does the effect fit the move?
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Post by Psych on Jun 22, 2015 0:03:01 GMT 1
Being similar to other moves isn't too bad, you can always compare two moves that are the same type Yes, but you don't want it to be too similar, because then there is no need for this created move
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Post by Tazonite on Jun 22, 2015 0:11:17 GMT 1
Being similar to other moves isn't too bad, you can always compare two moves that are the same type Ignores SpD boosts? I'd hope so, it's a physical move. Anyway is there any reason why it ignores evasion and defense boosts? Especially because it's not 100% accurate, I know it's similar to sacred sword's mechanics but how does the effect fit the move? It ignores regular Defense boosts now, and does not ignore Evasion.
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Post by Twix on Jun 23, 2015 21:41:00 GMT 1
Under Target, it should be Adjacent. In all honesty, I'd just make it 100 BP and get rid of the Defense change ignore, but I'd like to hear your comment on this.
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Post by Tazonite on Jun 23, 2015 21:43:18 GMT 1
Under Target, it should be Adjacent. In all honesty, I'd just make it 100 BP and get rid of the Defense change ignore, but I'd like to hear your comment on this. 100 BP would make it a Psystrike equivalent. If it ignored Defense change, it'd be a less accurate Fusion Bolt. Would you recommend the Fusion Bolt thing?
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Post by Psych on Jun 23, 2015 21:56:46 GMT 1
I'd rather have the Psystrike equivalent, rather than a copy of Fusion Bolt.
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Post by Snaquaza on Jun 23, 2015 22:08:23 GMT 1
I'd rather have a Psyshock equivalent.
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Post by Tazonite on Jun 23, 2015 22:35:50 GMT 1
I'd rather have the Psystrike equivalent, rather than a copy of Fusion Bolt. I'd rather have a Psyshock equivalent. I changed it back. So it has 90 BP so that it retains power while also not being a Psystrike copy. 90% accuracy so that... it isn't a Psystrike copy I guess.
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Kim BC
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Post by Kim BC on Jul 23, 2015 1:29:25 GMT 1
Idk if someone mentioned this yet but if this move ignores stat changes, shouldn't it be like 70 BP like Chip Away?
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Post by Tazonite on Jul 23, 2015 4:10:47 GMT 1
Idk if someone mentioned this yet but if this move ignores stat changes, shouldn't it be like 70 BP like Chip Away That's why it doesn't have 100% accuracy. Should I lower it to 80 though?
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Post by Kim BC on Jul 23, 2015 17:56:04 GMT 1
Make it 80 BP with 95 accuracy or 100
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Post by The Run on Jul 26, 2015 22:03:29 GMT 1
I don't really know. The move isn't bad, but the name just doesn't match how its a physical move.
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Post by Tazonite on Jul 26, 2015 22:42:54 GMT 1
I don't really know. The move isn't bad, but the name just doesn't match how its a physical move. The original name was along the lines of Seize Surge. If all I need to do is change the name, I'd gladly do so. Any ideas?
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Post by The Run on Jul 26, 2015 23:01:43 GMT 1
Not really Tazonite but I can tell you this: a surge is a current based word. So that word automatically makes people thing its a SpA move. I recommend that you change the name entirely.
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