[ti]Approved[/ti]Molard + Ankylaus

[Kim BC]

Molard + Ankylaus

Ground-Type Thorny Devils

Molard: the Thorny Pokemon

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Ground-type.
49 HP | 67 Atk | 89 Def | 54 SpA | 39 SpD | 30 Spe (328 BST)
Abilities: Rough Skin, Dry Skin
Hidden Ability (Available): Regenerator

Evolves at level 41

Based of off Thorny Devil:
www.factzoo.com/sites/all/img/reptiles/lizards/thorny/thorny-devil-hatchling.jpg

Design: It would have gray and black patterns that would change upon evolving. It wouldn't be as spiky as the final evo, it would have at least half the amount of spikes the final evo does.

Physical Details
Height: 14 cm
Weight: 45 lbs
Egg Group: Monster & Dragon
Gender Ratio: 50% Male & 50% Female

Technical Details
Catch Rate: 225
Hatch Time: 5355 - 5609 steps
Base Happiness: 70
Base Exp Yield: 66
EV Yield: 1 Defense
Leveling Rate: Medium Slow
Pokedex Color: Gray
Pokedex Entries:
{Sun}: This Pokemon can collect water through any part of its body due to its rigid structure
{Moon}: Why make two Pokedex entries if we’re making one game

-: Pin Missile
-: Tail Whip
3: Sand Attack
5: Fury Attack
7: Mud Slap
9: Sand Tomb
12: Camouflage
15: Quicksand
18: Magnitude
21: Bulldoze
25: Dragon Breath
29: Bite
33: Endure
37: Ancient Power
42: Dig
47: Sandstorm

TM & HM Moves
06 Toxic
10 Hidden Power
11 Sunny Day
17 Protect
21 Frustration
26 Earthquake
27 Return
28 Dig
32 Double Team
37 Sandstorm
39 Rock Tomb
44 Rest
45 Attract
67 Retaliate
69 Rock Polish
71 Stone Edge
78 Bulldoze
88 Sleep Talk
90 Substitute
94 Secret Power
100 Confide
01 Cut
04 Strength
06 Rock Smash

Egg Moves
Poison Tail (Nidoran-F, nidoking, DruDdigon, Arbok, Seviper, Dragalge, Goodra)
Iron Defense (Blastoise, Slowbro, Marowak, Slowking, tyranitar, Aggron, Bastiodon, Tyrantrum, Aurorus, Avalugg, Salamence, Scrafty)
Fire Fang (Charizard, Arbok, Salamence, Garchomp, Druddigon, Hydreigon, Tyrantrum, Tyranitar, Exploud, Rhyperior)
Horn Attack (Nidoking, Rhyperior)
Rollout (Blastoise, Snorlax, Swampert, Rhyperior, Aggron, Exploud, Salamence, Lickilicky)
Camouflage (Heliolisk, Dragalge)
Metal Claw (Charizard, Feraligatr, Aggron, Garchomp, Druddigon)
Curse (Tyrantrum, Goodra, Venusuar, Lapras, Snorlax, Slowbro, Slowking, Tyranitar, Aggron, Swampert, Tropius, Torterra, Bastiodon, Rampardos, Lickilicky, Rhyperior, Avalugg)

Tutor Moves:

Snore
Iron Tail
Aqua Tail
Earth Power
Endeavor
Uproar
Iron Defense
Outrage

Ankylaus: the Thorny Pokemon

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Ground-type.
73 HP | 94 Atk | 132 Def | 94 SpA | 64 SpD | 31 Spe (488 BST)
Abilities: Rough Skin, Dry Skin
Hidden Ability (Available): Regenerator

Does not evolve

Based off of Thorny Devil:
www.genesispark.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Thorny-Devil-300x212.jpg

Design: It would have brown and orange patterns so it can blend in the desert and be larger than the pre evo. It would grow the tail of an Ankylosaurus.

Physical Details
Height: 20 cm
Weight: 76 lbs
Egg Group: Monster & Dragon
Gender Ratio: 50% Male & 50% Female

Technical Details
Catch Rate: 90
Hatch Time: 5355 - 5609 steps
Base Happiness: 70
Base Exp Yield: 171
EV Yield: 2 Defense
Leveling Rate: Medium Slow
Pokedex Color: Brown
Pokedex Entries:
{Sun}: This Pokemon is hard to the touch but is usually a rare finding in deserts.

-: Spikes
-: Pin Missile
-: Tail Whip
3: Sand Attack
5: Fury Attack
7: Mud Slap
9: Sand Tomb
12: Camouflage
15: Quicksand
18: Magnitude
21: Bulldoze
25: Dragon Breath
29: Bite
33: Endure
37: Ancient Power
42: Dig
47: Sandstorm
52: Earthquake
57: Fissure

TM & HM Moves:
01 Hone Claws
02 Dragon Claw
06 Toxic
10 Hidden Power
11 Sunny Day
15 Hyper Beam
17 Protect
21 Frustration
26 Earthquake
27 Return
28 Dig
32 Double Team
35 Flamethrower 
37 Sandstorm
39 Rock Tomb
44 Rest
45 Attract
59 Incinerate
67 Retaliate
68 Giga Impact
69 Rock Polish
71 Stone Edge
78 Bulldoze
82 Dragon Tail
88 Sleep Talk
90 Substitute
94 Secret Power
100 Confide
01 Cut
04 Strength
06 Rock Smash

Egg Moves
Poison Tail (Nidoran-F, nidoking, DruDdigon, Arbok, Seviper, Dragalge, Goodra)
Iron Defense (Blastoise, Slowbro, Marowak, Slowking, tyranitar, Aggron, Bastiodon, Tyrantrum, Aurorus, Avalugg, Salamence, Scrafty)
Fire Fang (Charizard, Arbok, Salamence, Garchomp, Druddigon, Hydreigon, Tyrantrum, Tyranitar, Exploud, Rhyperior)
Horn Attack (Nidoking, Rhyperior)
Rollout (Blastoise, Snorlax, Swampert, Rhyperior, aggron, Exploud, Salamence, Lickilicky)
Camouflage (Heliolisk, Dragalge)
Metal Claw (Charizard, Feraligatr, Aggron, Garchomp, Druddigon)
Curse (Tyrantrum, Goodra, Venusuar, Lapras, Snorlax, Slowbro, Slowking, Tyranitar, Aggron, Swampert, Tropius, Torterra, Bastiodon, Rampardos, Lickilicky, Rhyperior, Avalugg)

Tutor Moves:

Snore
Iron Tail
Aqua Tail
Iron Defense
Endeavor
Uproar
Earth Power
Outrage

[Cyberknight98]

Well this looks familiar... Anyways, there is no "orange" as a pokedex color. There is brown, though. Other than that, nothing looks too out of place.  We do need a drawing or design explanation, though.

[Devoxys]

As Cyberknight said, add a more detailed design explanation and that's pretty much it.

I do want to point out that most LC Pokemon don't get Strength, so quite a few do. It's up to you to decide whether this is physically strong enough to get Strength.

[Salient]

Devoxys:
"Aipom, Aron, Axew, Bagon, Bergmite, Binacle, Buizel, Bulbasaur, Bunnelby, Charmander, Chespin, Chimchar, Corphish, Cranidos, Croagunk, Cubchoo, Cubone, Darumaka, Deino, Drilbur, Dwebble, Ekans, Electrike, Exeggcute, Froakie, Geodude, Gible, Golett, Grimer, Growlithe, Gulpin, Hippopotas, Krabby, Lickitung, Litleo, Machop, Makuhita, Mankey, Mienfoo, Mudkip, Munchlax, Nidoran-F, Nidoran-M, Nosepass, Numel, Onix, Pancham, Phanpy, Phantump, Pineco, Ponyta, Psyduck, Rhyhorn, Riolu, Roggenrola, Rufflet, Sandshrew, Scraggy, Shieldon, Shinx, Skiddo, Skorupi, Slakoth, Slowpoke, Snubbull, Spheal, Squirtle, Swinub, Teddiursa, Tepig, Timburr, Tirtouga, Torchic, Trapinch, Treecko, Turtwig, Tyrogue, Tyrunt, Wailmer"
All of those get Strength, so I think this is fine.

Pokedex entries should be a bit more descriptive and more official sounding. Give it Quicksand? Make Dry Skin it's secondary ability. I still have no idea how we're going to introduce HAs into the game. I really don't know about Regenerator, but then again Slowpoke follows similar reasoning (its tails regrow when cut off iirc).

[Devoxys]

Yeah, I did the /ds-ing and its more of a 47-53 split, so that's why I said that's its fine if it does.

[Cyberknight98]

This is a ground type move I made a while ago; Salient referenced it in his comment: ps-fakemons.proboards.com/thread/151/approved-quicksand

Feel free to use it!

[kizzo212]

The design and concept works really well in my opinion, and the movepool and other data such as names all look reasonable. Do have a few points though:

- Don't really see why a Pokemon would learn mud slap before sand attack, as mud slap is pretty much an improved sand attack (besides PP), so maybe swap them around. I understand this is probably the case with other pokemon, but I don't really see a need to follow suit when it doesn't make too much sense.
- I get that it evolves late, but maybe the BST on Ankylaus is still a little bit high for a 2 stage evolution. Mienshao does sit at 510 though, and AValugg at 514, so I guess it wouldn't be too bad.
- Doesn't exactly seem like the sort of dragon type pokemon that would get dragon dance, but I'm not exactly sure what the criteria for getting it is so it could work I guess.
- Maybe seems a bit too much like some sort of Garchomp + Hippowdon hybrid from looking at its stats and typing etc. Does have a bit more focus on defense, which helps differentiate it a bit I guess, but maybe its stats could be altered to make it a bit more unique. For example, you could maybe take 20 out of speed and put it into SpA (for Ankylaus), to make it a bit more of a mixed attacker, since Flygon,Garchomp and Zygarde are all physical attackers (although can run mixed sets reasonably well I guess). The ground type in general also lacks a lot of Pokemon with a decent SpA, so this would also help it differentiate from them. I guess the issue with this is that it maybe doesn't fit with the design too well, but I don't think it would be too big a deal to have a decent SpA, especially since its Atk would still be higher with the change I suggested. It would also nerf any sort of dragon dance (if kept) and rock polish sets, which does help differentiate it a bit, so it's up to you what you decide to do with it, but in it's current state it's maybe not quite unique enough.
- I could see curse working as an egg move.
- Second dex entry doesn't have information relevant to the mons

[Kim BC]

Ok, all done. Tagging kizzo212 Salient and Devoxys for QC

[Salient]

Looks good. I have no further issues with this.

Approved 1/3

[kizzo212]

May be slightly arguable, but I feel like you could add incinerate, flamethrower and fire blast into the TM learnset for Ankylaus. I know there was some debate as to whether it would be suitable for another fakemon, agassi (which is somewhat similar) to learn these, but this is also part dragon, and being able to learn incinerate, flamethrower and fire blast isn't exactly uncommon for dragon types. Up to you, but feel maybe the special movepool is a bit lacking otherwise. Would probably be good to see what others think of the suggestion first though. Otherwise, can't see any real issues with the mons. Would maybe like to see a justification as to it getting regenerator though (also typo on 'regernator' on Molard).

Edit: If given the fire moves, should also get sunny day, as pretty much everything that gets a fire move seems to also get sunny day, including moves like fire fang. (Is not the case for only 3 evolution lines for fire fang).

[Devoxys]

I don't see any problems with this either.

No comment on what kizzo said.

Approved 2/3

[Salient]

Maybe give it Incinerate and Flamethrower only? Unless Druddigon learns fore blast, then it's fine if all 3

[Kim BC]

Regenerator is because they can regenerate limbs. Adding incinerate, flamethrower, and sunny day.

[Kim BC]

Bump

[Salient]

Bump. This is apmost approved, needs one more

[Cyberknight98]

Only thing I have to say is Bulldoze is pretty high on the level-up list, move it down a bit and I'll be gucci.

APPROVED 2.5/3

[rexthegamer]

Maybe add:
Cut
Rock smash - If it can learn strength, it can probably learn this, its tail could smash the rocks.

After that Approve +0.5 so 3/3!