[ti]Approved[/ti]Prismin + Chromin

[kekecleon]

Prismin the Spectrum Pokémon
Type: Normal
Stats: HP 55 | Att 20 | Def 45 | SpAtt 75 | SpDef 75 | Spe 60 || BST 330
Abilities: Refraction
Evolution: Evolves into Chromin when leveled up with high friendship during the day.

Gender Ratio: 50% Male, 50% Female
Catch Rate: 60 (7.8%)
Egg Group: Fairy, Mineral
Hatch time: 5355 - 5609 steps
Height: 1’05’’ (0.43m)
Weight: 8.5 lbs (3.9kg)
Base Experience Yield: 66
Leveling rate: Medium Fast
EV Yield: 1 SpAtt
Body Style:
Footprint: N/A
Pokédex color: Gray
Base Friendship: 70

Concept Art: Prismin

Background: Prismin is based on prisms and their unique feature that lets them split white light into a colorful spectrum. This Pokémon has a fabric-like head with ribbons on either side of it. The ribbons and bows are just a reference to the word rainbow, which is an allusion to the Pokémon’s colorful nature.

Pokédex Entries:
#1: It spends most of its time just bathing in the sun’s brilliant radiance. When it turns dark, it seeks out any form of light that it can find and stays with it until dawn.
#2: When sunlight hits the transparent part of its body, vibrant band of colors are produced. The appearance of this spectrum brightens the mood of anything that catches its sight.

Learnset:
Level Up:

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Start: Flash
Start: Reflect Type
Start: Tackle
Level 3: Helping Hand
Level 6: Bide
Level 9: Psybeam
Level 12: Mimic
Level 15: Aurora Beam
Level 19: Sharpen
Level 23: Take Down
Level 27: Rock Polish
Level 31: Power Gem
Level 36: Vibrant Wave
Level 41: Light Screen
Level 46: Tri Attack
Level 51: Simple Beam
Level 57: Synchronoise

TM/HM:

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TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solar Beam
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM27 Return
TM29 Psychic
TM32 Double Team
TM33 Reflect
TM35 Flamethrower
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM57 Charge Beam
TM69 Rock Polish
TM70 Flash
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM77 Psych Up
TM80 Rock Slide
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM94 Secret Power
TM99 Dazzling Gleam
TM100 Confide

Egg:

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Disable: [Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff, Yamask, Cofagrigus]
Camouflage: [Marill] 
Mirror Coat: [Vanillite, Vanillish, Vanilluxe]
Morning Sun: [Cherubi, Cherrim]
Charm: [Snubbull, Granbull, Skitty, Minun, Pachirisu, Cottonee, Spritzee, Aromatisse, Dedenne] 

Tutor:

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Block
Endeavor
Heal Bell
Heat Wave
Helping Hand
Hyper Voice
Signal Beam
Snore
Stealth Rock
Vibrant Wave

Chromin the Spectrum Pokémon
Type: Normal
Stats: HP 80 | Att 45 | Def 70 | SpAtt 105 | SpDef 100 | Spe 110 || BST 510
Abilities: Refraction
Evolution: Evolves from Prismin when leveled up with high friendship during the day.


Gender Ratio: 50% Male, 50% Female
Catch Rate: 45 (5.9%)
Egg Group: Fairy, Mineral
Hatch time: 5355 - 5609 steps
Height: 3’03’’ (0.99m)
Weight: 40 lbs (18.1kg)
Base Experience Yield: 145
Leveling rate: Medium Fast
EV Yield: 1 SpAtt, 1 Spe
Body Style:
Footprint:
Pokédex color: Grey
Base Friendship: 70

Concept Art: Chromin

Background: Chromin is based on prisms and their unique feature that lets them split white light into a colorful spectrum. It is made up of 3 prisms that are its head and legs. It has a soft, fabric-like body and head as well as a bow on either side of the body that act like ribbon-arms. The ribbons and bows are just a reference to the word rainbow, which is an allusion to the Pokémon’s colorful nature.

Pokédex Entries:
#1: Its soft, fabric-like skin can change its hue by reflecting the same light wave frequency as anything around it. When it does this, there’s a chance it might have changed its typing.
#2: It consumes sunlight and uses it to heal and keep itself clear. It also utilizes the radiant energy to propel itself rapidly through the air, leaving a colorful streak of light behind.

Learnset:
Level Up:

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Start: Flash
Start: Reflect Type
Start: Tackle
Start: Wrap
Level 3: Helping Hand
Level 6: Bide
Level 9: Psybeam
Level 12: Mimic
Level 15: Aurora Beam
Level 19: Sharpen
Level 23: Take Down
Level 27: Rock Polish
Level 31: Power Gem
Level 36: Vibrant Wave
Level 41: Light Screen
Level 46: Tri Attack
Level 51: Simple Beam
Level 57: Synchronoise
Level 64: Hyper Beam

TM/HM:

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TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solar Beam
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM27 Return
TM29 Psychic
TM32 Double Team
TM33 Reflect
TM35 Flamethrower
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM57 Charge Beam
TM62 Acrobatics
TM68 Giga Impact
TM69 Rock Polish
TM70 Flash
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM77 Psych Up
TM80 Rock Slide
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM94 Secret Power
TM99 Dazzling Gleam
TM100 Confide  

Egg:

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Disable: [Jigglypuff, Wigglytuff, Yamask, Cofagrigus]
Camouflage: [Marill]
Mirror Coat: [Vanillite, Vanillish, Vanilluxe]
Morning Sun: [Cherubi, Cherrim]
Charm: [Snubbull, Granbull, Skitty, Minun, Pachirisu, Cottonee, Spritzee, Aromatisse, Dedenne] 

Tutor:

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Block
Bind
Covet
Endeavor
Heal Bell
Heat Wave
Helping Hand
Hyper Voice
Iron Head
Signal Beam
Snore
Stealth Rock
Vibrant Wave

If you have any comments, questions, suggestions, corrections, or anything else, please comment. :3
Thanks for viewing my Fakémon!

[Salient]

I love this Pokemon, it's so cute ;;

As far as everything goes, it looks great, I see no outstanding issues, except I don't know where I heard this, but apparently Pokemon that evolve via stones don't learn anything through level up... I'll check up on this once I finish this game (the one we're in). Its dex entries are good, as are all the misc. info. Its stats are good and fit the fact that it can change its type. Polychrom is gr8 btw, as Psych said I love how much we're doing with Colors.

*stamps Goon Seal of Approval on Kekecleon's head*

[kekecleon]

Jul 9, 2015 5:09:11 GMT 1 Salient said:

I love this Pokemon, it's so cute ;;

As far as everything goes, it looks great, I see no outstanding issues, except I don't know where I heard this, but apparently Pokemon that evolve via stones don't learn anything through level up... I'll check up on this once I finish this game (the one we're in). Its dex entries are good, as are all the misc. info. Its stats are good and fit the fact that it can change its type. Polychrom is gr8 btw, as Psych said I love how much we're doing with Colors.

*stamps Goon Seal of Approval on Kekecleon's head*

Thanks Smogoon! I never knew that Shiny Stones did that o.o, but if you find out, please tell. :3 I was unsure about the method of evolution. At first, I was going to make learning a move activate the evolution from Prismin to Chromin, but I couldn't find a move that fit. The method of evolution might change from it's current Shiny Stone way now. Thanks again for all the comments and that concerning issue! n_n 

Edit: Also thanks for your stamp!  

[Salient]

Jul 9, 2015 5:30:39 GMT 1 kekecleon said:

Thanks Smogoon! I never knew that Shiny Stones did that o.o, but if you find out, please tell. :3 I was unsure about the method of evolution. At first, I was going to make learning a move activate the evolution from Prismin to Chromin, but I couldn't find a move that fit. The method of evolution might change from it's current Shiny Stone way now. Thanks again for all the comments and that concerning issue! n_n



Edit: Also thanks for your stamp!  

Yeah, apparently Pokemon that evolve via stones learn no/less moves through level up and require heart scales etc. And I recommend letting it learn Vibrant Wave via level up.

[kekecleon]

Removed the Shiny Stone way of evolving. I also made it so that they can learn Vibrant Wave by leveling up. I'm still uncertain by the way Prismin will evolve into Chromin, but I'm considering your suggestion. Thanks for the info and your suggestion Salient!

Edit: I might have to remove Vibrant Wave from the Level-up moves. Snaq said, "In this case no Pokemon should learn it by levelup / egg." when referring to Vibrant Wave. :c 

[Kim BC]

Maybe for evolution it could just evolve during the day with happiness like riolu or during the dat at a certain level like Tyrantrum. Or maybe.... during the day with a certain like (idk insert mon here but there's got to be one). Its item could be a silk scarf or something since it always has that cloth and is originally a normal type. I'm providing a bunch of daytime related evolution methods because the first PokeDex Entry for Prismin kinda makes it sound like a "day" mon.

[kekecleon]

Yeah I was thinking of making it a day-related evolution. I am probably going to make it so that it evolves with a certain happiness, but that Silk Scarf idea sounds like it would fit with the evolution. Also, they are day 'mons as stated in the dex entries. Thanks for your feedback Kim BC! n_n

[kekecleon]

Well I guess I'm ready for it to be QC by Galom, Ace, Psych, and Level 51. Tell me what you think I need to improve! n.n

[Psych]

First off, I like the new surge on color.  It's a great little thing.

- Polychrome needs to get approved for this mon to keep it's flavor, Clear Body just doesn't fit near as well.

- This is a giant Prism pokemon.  I picture this thing as incredibly small, not 4' tall (which is somehow taller than Nemion, which is based on a lion).  85 lbs is also quite large.

- I like everything on Prismin's level-up pool, but as for Chromin, I don't understand the addition of ExtremeSpeed at lvl 41.  I feel like Vibrant Wave would fit perfectly here, but I would like to get jaywad to comment on this to see if it fits as it is his move.

- Everything seems in order on the TM/HM Lists, Egg Moves, and Tutor Moves (if you decide to put in Vibrant Wave as a level up, no need to have it in tutors)

- I don't like the exclusion of Power Gem from the Chromin, I feel like it needs to be in there somewhere.

These are some little nitpicks I had, fix those, I'll check back in and approve it later on after jaywad comments.

[kekecleon]

I originally had Vibrant Wave as a level up move, but some where on the Vibrant Wave thread, Snaq said that the move won't be a egg/level up move. I probably misread it so I'll add the move into these mons' level up moves. Chromin gets Extreme Speed because I always related this move with that phrase "fast as the speed of light", and because this 'mon's flavor is revolving around light, I thought it would fit. It's size and weight will be changed to make it smaller so that it doesn't seems so large. I'll replace Dazzling Gleam with Power Gem on Chromin's level up moves. Thanks for your sharing your concerns Psych!

[jaywad]

Jul 9, 2015 22:49:41 GMT 1 Psych said:

First off, I like the new surge on color.  It's a great little thing.

- Polychrome needs to get approved for this mon to keep it's flavor, Clear Body just doesn't fit near as well.

- This is a giant Prism pokemon.  I picture this thing as incredibly small, not 4' tall (which is somehow taller than Nemion, which is based on a lion).  85 lbs is also quite large.

- I like everything on Prismin's level-up pool, but as for Chromin, I don't understand the addition of ExtremeSpeed at lvl 41.  I feel like Vibrant Wave would fit perfectly here, but I would like to get jaywad to comment on this to see if it fits as it is his move.

- Everything seems in order on the TM/HM Lists, Egg Moves, and Tutor Moves (if you decide to put in Vibrant Wave as a level up, no need to have it in tutors)

- I don't like the exclusion of Power Gem from the Chromin, I feel like it needs to be in there somewhere.

These are some little nitpicks I had, fix those, I'll check back in and approve it later on after jaywad comments.

Well, it can't really be learned by level-up, but it was actually approved as a tutor move! You can just add it as a tutor move instead. I've already given this move to an approved Pokemon line [Fruican and Exotouc] so it can have it too. It seriously matches the flavor of this Pokemon  

[kekecleon]

This move does fit my mons extremely well and I will certainly add it to the Tutor Moves! Thanks for supporting it Jaywad :3

[Devoxys]

Cool Pokemon! I only have a few nitpicks:
-Vibrant Wave should be okay on this mon as a level-up move imo. The Pokemon that learn Hidden Power by level-up are pretty random, with Pokemon like Slowking, Burmy, Shellow, Meditite, Solosis, etc.
-The Move Tutors need some reconsideration. Zen Headbutt, Dragon Pulse, Shock Wave?

[kekecleon]

Thanks Devoxys! Are you sure it'll be ok? I'm not sure, everyone's giving me mixed messages on that @-@. Zen Headbutt, Dragon Pulse, and Shock Wave don't really fit the 'mons, so I'm not sure why included them. I'll fix these things right up! Thanks for your suggestion. n_n

[jaywad]

I think the best idea is to wait around for Snaquaza's opinion [how long until he comes back?] But for now i think it should be level-up. I gave it to Xerneas [that colorful piece of crap deer] as a tutor move, so i really think this should too.

[Level 51]

Extremely cool concept, neat execution, and even clean (and cute!!) artwork; fantastic job here. Of course, since it's me, I still have a few nitpicks to make:

I find it interesting that you chose to go the speedy-not-bulky route, especially since I probably would have gone the other way. Of course as I type this I remember that it IS after all a Pokemon made of glass, which doesn't respond to getting hit very well, and that I should stop worrying about people's stat distributions. That said I think you could definitely afford to remove some Attack points and place them into Special Attack and Special Defense, since this Pokemon doesn't look too overpowered yet anyway.

Your movepool looks a bit too expansive. In particular, here are some moves I recommend removing:

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- Helping Hand - hands = ??
- Me First / After You - doesn't really fit the concept, looks like just a random insertion. After You is okay in a pinch if you think it's justified, but Me First should probably go.
- Synchronoise - this is optional I guess, I don't really like how it fits on this Pokemon but I guess it could work in a pinch. Looks like fun with Reflect Type, haha.
- Extreme Speed - how fast can a glass prism move I'm very confused. Remember, it's the prism moving, not the light. You don't get hurt when light hits you at the speed of light.
- Echoed Voice / Hyper Voice - Prismin and Chromin don't really look like noisy Pokemon (this, incidentally, is also why I don't like Synchronoise on them).
- Aerial Ace / Acrobatics - have you ever tried throwing a glass prism in the air? What happens when it lands?
- Volt Switch - typically given to Electric- or Steel-types only. Sorry.
- U-turn - can't really picture this thing actually executing the move.
- Block - if you're going to make this smaller, it can't really block stuff. "No, you can't leave!" *steps over*
- Last Resort - generally given to more obviously organic Pokemon, like Stoutland, Delcatty, etc. Not really a move for a prism to use.

- A lot of the TMs (eg Ice Beam, Flamethrower, Thunderbolt) seemed really odd at first, but then I remembered that Pokemon like Rampardos get all three, so I gave up trying to be logical.
- WHOA WHOA WHOA VIBRANT WAVE IS A TUTOR MOVE?? APOCALYPSE OCCURRING

Not sure how this thing is gendered. But Honedge / Doublade / Aegislash are too so I guess I can't complain...

If a Pokemon evolves by an Evolution stone the evolution should have a really small movepool, so if you want to go that way you need to remember that.

As for other evolutions, you need to bear in mind that the evolution should have a movepool largely comparable to the pre-evolution's movepool, with maybe one or two extra 'ultimate' moves right at the end. The pre-evolution could maybe have one extra move, although that's generally reserved for starters. What I mean in this case is that you should change the last two moves on Prismin to this:

Level 41: Tri Attack
Level 49 46: Simple Beam

and the last few moves on Chromin to this:

Level 41: Extreme Speed Tri Attack
Level 46: Simple Beam
Level 50: Synchronoise
Level 60 50: Hyper Beam

The levels are up to your personal taste, but they need to be the same between Pokemon. I guess if you're going to leave Synchronoise in, you should give it to Prismin as well.

Once again, a really good job done - especially happy because you made it really easy for me to check this :3 Approved 0.5/3

[kekecleon]

Thanks for liking my mons' concept! I understand your concerns and I'll try to justify some of them. The stat distribution was simply to make this 'mon more balanced offensive wise and a little speedy, sort of like a glass cannon, without the "cannon".

Normal-type pokemon generally have a wide movepool to balance out how terrible their type is offensively, so that's why I had some of these moves. Anyways, here are my thoughts on the moves:

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-Helping Hands~ I know it's strange but my 'mons aren't the first to have this move and lack hands. For example, Eevee's line can learn this as well as Azurill, Cherubi, Cottonee, Petilil, Alomomola, and a few others that have no hands.
-Me First/After You~ These moves don't really fit the flavor, so I'll remove them.
-Synchronoise~ I think this move fits with these 'mons, but it makes no more sense than Kecleon getting it. Also, I know this move has "noise" at the end, but it actually isn't a sound-based move.
-Extreme Speed~ Well glass prisms don't move at all, but I imagine that when this 'mon consumes light, it gains properties from its diet that allow it stay quick and light. Not sure if that makes any sense, but other 'mons that get this move aren't that fast like Togekiss and Lucario. I should also mention that this mon is always airborne, so don't try to imagine it running, its legs weren't made for that. o3o
-Echoed Voice/Hyper Voice~ There are some 'mons that get these moves and aren't really sound Pokemons. For example, Aromatisse can learn Echoed Voice despite it being a 'mon based on aromas, just like mine are based on light. I'm considering removing them though.
-Aerial Ace/Acrobatics~ As I stated above, these 'mons are always in the air, whether they're hovering in one spot or flying around. I think they fit these 'mons, or at least make more sense than some other Pokemon that get Aerial Ace or Acrobatics like Krookodile, Ambipom, Greninja, Serperior, etc.
-Volt Switch~ Have no argument for this, so it will be removed from the list.
-U-Turn~ Most 'mons that get this move are Bug-type, Flying-Type, or speedy attackers. I think of Chromin as a speedy 'mon, so I can imagine Chromin quickly attacking an opposing Pokemon and switching out before they can attack.
-Block~ Yeah, Chromin isn't as large as it was before, so I'll definitely take this move out.
-Last Resort~ They aren't really organic, so I'll be glad to remove this.
-TMs~ I agree that some of the TMs don't make sense, but Normal-type Pokemon generally tend to have these odd TMs.
-Vibrant Wave~ It is a Tutor Move, and might have to stay that way on my Pokemon. 

About the evolution, I will certainly change Chromins moves to closely match Prismin's moves. I was looking at Riolu's and Lucario's moves because they are 'mons that evolve with high friendship like my 'mons and I wanted to get some ideas, when I realized their moves are completely different. o.o Don't know what happened to them.

Thanks for giving me your thoughts on my Pokemon Level 51 and approval of my 'mons! ^-^ If you think that that the reasoning for my moves just isn't good enough, feel free to say. n_n

Edit: Changed the 'mon's stats to make it more special-based, therefore I removed U-turn and Extreme speed.

[Psych]

Everything is cool here, nothing to nitpick for me.

Good design, good artwork imo, nothing to be extremely critical on.

Polychrome needs to be approved as well, so work on that.

Approved 1/3

[kekecleon]

Thanks Psych!

[evilklefki]

This is what makes me wish I was a mod XD. dude, this is absolutely P E R F E C T. the artwork is cute and looks a lot like an actual pokemon that gf would make, being an inanimate object mon it looks relatively natural and not just like a prisim with eyes, the movepool! the movepool has nothing wrong with it besides like maybe snore, but otherwise, THE MOVEPOOL OMG. prismin is cute too. the names are cool-sounding, the yfit with the flavor excactly and perfectly, the ability is truly unique and interesting, unlike some people who slap random sig abilities onto their mons to make them seem more detailed :/. the stats are quite strange but that's not a bad thing in any shape or form. it could have some viability in the competitive scene: rip scizor, rest in spaghetti never forgetti. the concept is strange and sounds like a disaster at first but just take a look at this whole thing and it's.... just perfect. this is one of the first fakemons we have that looks like an actual convincing pokemon that gamefreak could design and put into a game, but since they have absolutely no way of finding this, I hope we can do that for you. amazing.

edit: remove U-turn. srsly though otherwise this is just perfect. Amazing job m8 n_n

[kekecleon]

Jul 18, 2015 21:10:06 GMT 1 evilklefki said:

This is what makes me wish I was a mod XD. dude, this is absolutely P E R F E C T. the artwork is cute and looks a lot like an actual pokemon that gf would make, being an inanimate object mon it looks relatively natural and not just like a prisim with eyes, the movepool! the movepool has nothing wrong with it besides like maybe snore, but otherwise, THE MOVEPOOL OMG. prismin is cute too. the names are cool-sounding, the yfit with the flavor excactly and perfectly, the ability is truly unique and interesting, unlike some people who slap random sig abilities onto their mons to make them seem more detailed :/. the stats are quite strange but that's not a bad thing in any shape or form. it could have some viability in the competitive scene: rip scizor, rest in spaghetti never forgetti. the concept is strange and sounds like a disaster at first but just take a look at this whole thing and it's.... just perfect. this is one of the first fakemons we have that looks like an actual convincing pokemon that gamefreak could design and put into a game, but since they have absolutely no way of finding this, I hope we can do that for you. amazing.

edit: remove U-turn. srsly though otherwise this is just perfect. Amazing job m8 n_n

Thanks Evil Klefki! I'm really glad you like my 'mons! ^-^ I thought I removed U-Turn, so I'll check out my moves again and remove it. 


Edit: Slightly organized the stats to hopefully make it less strange.  

[kekecleon]

Tagging Snaquaza for QC.

[Tazonite]

Interesting concept. All I'd say is to fully draw out the designs.
Would I have visited if you weren't selected for the Showcase?
Maybe (probnot)

[kekecleon]

Jul 27, 2015 20:09:57 GMT 1 Tazonite said:

Interesting concept. All I'd say is to fully draw out the designs.
Would I have visited if you weren't selected for the Showcase?
Maybe (probnot)

Yeah, I've been planning on working with the designs, but I keep procrastinating.  

[jaywad]

i honestly think it's a great idea, though how will their changes look? will it be only the elements on each hand?