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Post by Salient on May 24, 2015 23:55:02 GMT 1
Name: Arctic Wave Type: Ice (maybe Ice/Water?) Category: Special PP: 10 [base] 16 [max] Power: 100 Accuracy: 75% Priority: 0 Target: All Adjacent Pokemon Makes Contact: No Description: 20% chance to confuse or freeze all targets {Both cannot happen at once}. Secondary Effect:
Affected by Protect: Yes Affected by Magic Coat: No Affected by Snatch: No Affected by King's Rock: Yes Affected by BrightPowder: Yes
Pokemon who learn it by Move Tutor: N/A Pokemon who learn it: Cloyster, Beartic, Dewgoing, Walrein, Lapras, Glalie, Empoleon, Milotic, Suicune, Fakemons
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Post by Ace on May 25, 2015 0:36:36 GMT 1
tl;dr it's an Ice Beam buff with lower acc and some extra effects. I'd make the acc 95, 90 is the same as Draco Meteor which misses too often.
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Post by Salient on May 25, 2015 1:25:12 GMT 1
tl;dr it's an Ice Beam buff with lower acc and some extra effects. I'd make the acc 95, 90 is the same as Draco Meteor which misses too often. Changed. Now 110 power with 95% acc.
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Post by Devoxys on May 25, 2015 2:03:42 GMT 1
And now its Blizzard with a better accuracy and effect >.<.
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Post by blackburn009 on May 25, 2015 13:04:16 GMT 1
Boomburst is pretty much the only move that has 95%+ accuracy with higher base power than your move that doesn't have a drawback
Aeroblast has 95% accuracy, 100 base power, and an increased chance to crit with sacred fire 95% and searing shot having 100% accuracy and chances to burn all being the highest BP moves with a positive effect with high accuracy. All 3 of these are pretty exclusive moves, with only legendaries having them
I'd remove the hail effect and put it at 100 base power so it is a better ice beam
or 1.5x damage in hail 80 base power 100% accuracy with no extra effect
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Post by Snaquaza on May 25, 2015 13:17:49 GMT 1
I think the idea of this move is to buff hail mostly, and Ice Beam is good enough already and shouldn't be plainly outclassed. My idea would be to make this 70 BP, which doubles in hail. You may change it in other ways too, but if it stays like this I'm gonna reject it since it's too powerful.
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Post by Salient on May 25, 2015 22:34:58 GMT 1
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Post by Snaquaza on May 25, 2015 22:45:29 GMT 1
Seems fine, I'd personally remove the chance to lower SpDef, but I guess its fine. I'd like to hear what Galom thinks before approving though. Looks good though.
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Post by Devoxys on May 26, 2015 1:55:23 GMT 1
Well, I could still argue it is Aurora Beam with Light over Beam, Lowering a different stat, 5 more BP, and the Hail buffing it, but I guess its different enough.
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Post by Galom on May 26, 2015 18:14:30 GMT 1
How does "Aurora" have anything to do with Hail? This doesn't really make sense to me.
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TheBlueFiretruck
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Post by TheBlueFiretruck on May 27, 2015 22:18:00 GMT 1
Moves that can double in power under a certain condition tend to have no secondary effects. I think the name should be tweaked to have more to deal with hail like Galom said, and the SpD drop be... well... dropped.
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Post by Salient on May 27, 2015 22:38:26 GMT 1
Thanks for suggestions guys! Any other ideas?
I'm changing name to (possibilities): Hail Barrage Hail Stream TBD (please suggest things I'm bad with moves).
I'm also changing the effect from 20% SpD drop to no secondary effect.
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Post by Ace on May 28, 2015 1:25:46 GMT 1
What about Sleet Storm, idk.
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Post by Salient on May 28, 2015 3:12:46 GMT 1
Ace I feel like that would be a move that summons Hail
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Post by herndonchad on May 29, 2015 10:34:49 GMT 1
Since this deals with light and ice, i suggest something involving the Aurora Borealis. This may also be an interesting signature/theme for a legendary (move would need changes).
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Post by Salient on Jun 25, 2015 22:15:52 GMT 1
bump, changed it a bit.
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Post by Psych on Jun 25, 2015 22:17:52 GMT 1
I don't like that it has a chance to do either/or on the secondary effects. I'd remove the Confusion chance, and keep the Freeze chance, as it makes more sense with the move.
This also seems like a higher risk, higher reward Ice Beam.
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Post by The Run on Jun 25, 2015 22:37:29 GMT 1
The name itself confuses me. Arctic wave could be either described as a Ice Tsunami in an icy terrain, or a super cold version of Surf. Also I'm not very satisfied with the 20% Confusion + Freeze possibility. What you could do is reduce both to 5% or take out confusion or freeze status. It seems a bit haxed from my point of view.
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Post by Salient on Jun 25, 2015 22:57:21 GMT 1
The Run, the target can't be frozen and confused, and I'm trashing this, just waiting for Snaquaza to lock the thread.
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Post by Salient on Jun 29, 2015 21:59:29 GMT 1
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Post by Galom on Jul 1, 2015 22:25:04 GMT 1
Locked at OP's request.
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