Silex Ray

[silverwhiteblue]

Name: Silex Ray
Type: Rock
Category: Special
PP: 8
Power: 110
Accuracy: 85%
Priority: 0

Target: Adjacent: One Adjacent Pokemon

Makes Contact: no contact
Description: A Devastating ray is launched fiercely at the opponent
Secondary Effect: none 



Affected by Protect: Yes

Affected by Magic Coat: No

Affected by Snatch: No

Affected by King's Rock: Yes

Affected by BrightPowder: Yes



Signature Move: No

Pokemon
:larvitar line, amaura line, omanyte line, , nosepass line, lunatone, rhydon line, jirachi, metang line, solrock.


This still needs a bit of editing, but trying to provide those special rock type moves the game needs !

[jaywad]

Here's an idea: This seems like Power gem, only stronger and a new status effect. Try raising the power a little and the accuracy a little lower imo.

[silverwhiteblue]

jaywad , I noticed your comment was rather accurate to I edited it to resemble moves like hydro pump, thunder, fireblast rather than flamthrower, ice beam as I originaly intended at first place. I hope it fits better now

[jaywad]

Well, that would seem fine to me, although others may have different opinions.
Also how do heatran and beheeyem get it? I'm not sure how. I can get the rest.
This move would help special rock-types like omastar, aurorus and Lunatone with their competitive play! Keep working silverwhiteblue

[silverwhiteblue]

Since the move is slightly space themed, I figured maybe i'd expand the range from rock pokemon to stuff like clefable, deoxys, etc . beheeyem learns cosmic power when obtained from gen 6 egg:beheeyem, so I thougth i'd do the same with this move in our gen.
regarding heatran, im thinking of level up maybe, or by a special event.
Thanks !

[jaywad]

The way you describe it doesn't seem like it's space-related, as they are blasting a rock comet. Maybe something like "The user calls a comet of rocks from space to land on the target" would aid your idea a little better.

[silverwhiteblue]

I didnt really want it to seem close to draco meteor tho. its the reason I said "slightly" space themed, but it still seems confusing I guess. beheeyem and heatran were mostly a way to escape the only rock pokemon range, so they can be edited out. I prioritize fitting the move to omanyte, amaura and special rock type lines than expand to space. 

[Devoxys]

Rock Comet is a bad name. I suggest renaming it to "Meteorite" or "Asteriod".

Also, can you explain why the Onix Line, Roggenrola Line, Heatran, Larvitar Line, Reshiram, Tyrantrum and Zyguard get this?

[silverwhiteblue]

yes Rock meteorite seems more adapted. Thank you for the suggestion ! I'll change it.
regarding zyguard and reshiram, I mainly needed some legendaries to pass it to, and it seemed completly useless, even if adaptable on regirock. Looking again maybe they dont fit too well, and deoxys can be a better replacement.

Tyrantrum and the larvitar line looked logical to me as tyrantrum adds a bit of variety with its dragon typing, plus learning draco meteor would make rock meteorite logical. Tyranitar is already known to have a special variant(the ice beam one) and a nice movepool including thunder wave. competitvely wise, it might be a nice add to that variant, and artisticaly it seemed fitting.

Onix and roggenrola lines seemed capable of learning this move since its basicaly a comet/meteorite hurdle or rock being launched. Its not too far of a powerfull rock slide special version, in a way so I didnt see why they wouldnt be able to use it. Of course I'm not arguing competitive wise regarding these 2 lines.

Also considering adding cranidos line, around the same as tyrantrum logic, and sheer force rhamparados isnt extinct, even if not common, and might appreciate this move

[Devoxys]

No. Draco Meteor is a Move Tutor that pretty much all Dragon Types get. It doesn't justify Tyrantrum and Cranidos.

I see Tyranitar as a sandstorm Pokemon, not a celestial Pokemon.

Onix is a Rock Snake, not a comet/meteorite. Roggenrola is a rock formation, I don't see why it would get this.


Also don't just slap Rock on a Rock type move, Meteorite is sufficent

[silverwhiteblue]

I sorta understood the onix and roggenrola argument so I removed them from the list.
Tyranitar yes is a sandstorm pokemon, but it learns blizzard, ice beam, aqua tail, areal ace, thunderbolt, surf, etc... which by far dont meet this description either. It still makes more sens to me to see it launching a meteorite than a tidal wave for example. Pokemon logic also plays a role in this.
I still find tyrantrum an cranidos at least decently matched with the move. If it seems too illogical I suppose I can edit them out, but I dont see too much of a relevant reason to do so, as they arent too far from the move

Renamed it once again, as you can see names are my worst point.

[jaywad]

May 30, 2015 14:03:53 GMT 1 silverwhiteblue said:

I sorta understood the onix and roggenrola argument so I removed them from the list.
Tyranitar yes is a sandstorm pokemon, but it learns blizzard, ice beam, aqua tail, areal ace, thunderbolt, surf, etc... which by far dont meet this description either. It still makes more sens to me to see it launching a meteorite than a tidal wave for example. Pokemon logic also plays a role in this.
I still find tyrantrum an cranidos at least decently matched with the move. If it seems too illogical I suppose I can edit them out, but I dont see too much of a relevant reason to do so, as they arent too far from the move

Renamed it once again, as you can see names are my worst point.

Maybe for Tyrantrum, but not rampardos.
Also names are my biggest problem ;.;

[silverwhiteblue]

Removed cranidos line and tyrantrum.

Snaquaza , Ace, what do you think guys

[Leafeon]

Mk a few suggestions.
The accuracy: I know this is given to less pokemon than stone edge but it still utterly out classes it. (Keep in mind that rock type moves have the overall least accuracy) Lowering it to be like thunder's 70% might make this more justifiable.
The secondary effect seems slapped on and really doesn't need to be there.
Other than that it seems like a really cool competitive move.

[Snaquaza]

To start, I think it sounds physical right now. Letting a stone crash on the opponent is physical after all. Maybe a better name would be Meteor Shower, with some flavor description that the user whips up the power of meteors? Otherwise it seems fine, and making it a Fire Blast clone sounds good. Make sure to make it 110 BP then!

[silverwhiteblue]

Meteorite didnt seem bad tho, but i still changed the name once more into meteor shower, as Snaquaza suggested to make it seem special.
and BP to 110 to match fire blast. if there are other suggestions im willing to listen
New description available, even if im not too artistically great

[jaywad]

Yep, i can't see any flaw here. It's pretty unique and useful for the special attacking rock-types[as you said]. Good job

[Devoxys]

Could you please implement the changes to the Pokemon that get this that I mentioned earlier?

[silverwhiteblue]

yes Devoxys I edited it out. I still kept the larvitar line tho because I still think it seems compatible

[silverwhiteblue]

so Galom , Snaquaza Ace , may I get approval/rejection now?

[Ruby]

Why does Terrakion get this? Terrakion has no relation to space or whatsoever, I mean, it logically cannot even bring a single meteor from the sky. Other whys, good stuff

[silverwhiteblue]

So I still need this approved/rejected to go on , so is it approved/rejected Ace , Snaquaza, Galom

[Galom]

While I like move's base power and concept, I feel its too similar to Draco Meteor lore-wise. Draco Meteor is literally 'meteor shower' in Japanese.

[Hounds]

So it seems like a rock type hydro pump/thunder/fire blast, but the name "meteor shower" gives a feel that it would be an AOE move. Wouldn't this be kinda broken in a doubles format? Nobody would even think twice about using rock slide.

[Psych]

I don't see the Rhydon line getting this move at all, but otherwise, great move in my opinion. I like the idea and the viability of the move so far.