Electrocute

[Snaquaza]

This is not the same as Seismic Toss and Night Shade
Name: Electrocute
Type: Electric
Category: Physical
PP: 10, 16
Power: --
Accuracy: 100%
Priority: 0
Target: Adjacent (Choose 1)
Makes Contact: Yes
Description: The user pinches the opponent to unleash a strong electric shock.
Secondary Effect: The base power is equal to the level of the Pokemon using it.

Affected by Protect: Yes
Affected by Magic Coat: No
Affected by Snatch: No
Affected by King's Rock: Yes
Affected by BrightPowder: Yes

Signature Move: No
Pokemon: Ampharos, Eelektross, Elekid, Electabuzz, Electivire, Thundurus, Zekrom, Fakemons

[Twix]

So in essence, this move is an Electric-type Seismic Toss? Since the move has something to do with an electric shock, you could add a chance to paralyze as well. I don't really like the name tbh, but I'll hold off on criticism towards that.

[Hawkie]

Ben remember it's BP gets to 100 at of course Lv.100, a 100BP move with a chance to status is too much in my opinion, it's fine the way it is.

[Twix]

Technically it isn't 100 Base Power, just deals 100 damage in competitive play, while going through the game it would deal low amounts such as 30 or 46, depending on the level. While it may be pretty strong, away from the competitive aspect the addition makes a lot of sense as the user does shock the opposing Pokemon and the small distribution of the move.

[Snaquaza]

Jun 14, 2015 17:38:22 GMT 1 Twix said:

Technically it isn't 100 Base Power, just deals 100 damage in competitive play, while going through the game it would deal low amounts such as 30 or 46, depending on the level. While it may be pretty strong, away from the competitive aspect the addition makes a lot of sense as the user does shock the opposing Pokemon and the small distribution of the move.

It is 100 base power. In my post it said it has the Base Power equal to its level, NOT does damage equal to its level.

[Twix]

Snaquaza I'd still suggest the small chance to paralyze due to it being weak at levels until it reaches like 80-90, whereas it would be better to use Wild Charge or Special Attacks on the Pokemon who get the move. On a competitive aspect, at level 100 it could be broken, but we are trying to make moves for play through are we not?

[Snaquaza]

Jun 14, 2015 18:15:31 GMT 1 Twix said:

Snaquaza I'd still suggest the small chance to paralyze due to it being weak at levels until it reaches like 80-90, whereas it would be better to use Wild Charge or Special Attacks on the Pokemon who get the move. On a competitive aspect, at level 100 it could be broken, but we are trying to make moves for play through are we not?

I feel like if I add a chance for paralysis it'd get too good at higher levels, in addition to Paralysis not being necessary for what it does. (Although paralysis is associated with Electric moves, sending a powerful shock into the opponents body doesn't cause them to be paralyzed per se, as seen in Shock Wave and Wild Charge). Also, it is strange for a move with a fairly complicated effect like this to have a secondary effect.

Without a secondary effect its just Earthquake at level 100.

[Twix]

Besides that, I could see this move also given to Zekrom, Heliolisk, and Raichu.

[Aeril8]

I don't see this being any different as a 100BP move. At level 1 Pokemon can get moves like Tackle with 50BP. To get that amount of power with this move the Pokemon would need to be level 50. It looks pretty useless in non-competitive play until the Pokemon reaches about level 80.

[youngkingpat]

I think this is a really cool idea. I think it would be fine in story because its like a reward for leveling up your pokes which is nice. It would also be a good competitive move that's not over powered because electric has an immunity in ground type. I think it's a good idea overall. I just think it needs a cooler name hah

[Devoxys]

I thought we should not look at things from an overly competitive aspect?

But on that topic, this is pretty much a physical thunderbolt with 5 more BP in exchange for no secondary effect.

[silverwhiteblue]

I dont really see neccessary an electric nigthshade. It sorta made sense with figthing and ghost, but i dont know about electric

[blackburn009]

It's not just a seismic toss, its base power changes, not its damage.

This seems to be outclassed by other level up moves at every level

[Snaquaza]

Jun 16, 2015 18:50:55 GMT 1 silverwhiteblue said:

I dont really see neccessary an electric nigthshade. It sorta made sense with figthing and ghost, but i dont know about electric

It isn't a "damage" change its a "base power" change. So it's not equal to Night Shade or Seismic Toss.

Jun 16, 2015 19:06:19 GMT 1 blackburn009 said:

It's not just a seismic toss, its base power changes, not its damage.

This seems to be outclassed by other level up moves at every level

Honestly, it may be outclassed while playing early game, but it starts being pretty good once you reach higher levels, or playing late/post game. It keeps getting stronger, and honestly, there are more moves which are not really that great as a level-up move (looking at you Constrict). I though this was a fun effect to add, and I feel it'd generally be learnt at higher levels anyway.

[silverwhiteblue]

Isnt it then a stronger wild charge with no recoil and great accuracy ?

[Snaquaza]

Jun 16, 2015 19:10:42 GMT 1 silverwhiteblue said:

Isnt it then a stronger wild charge with no recoil and great accuracy ?

At Level 100, it's an Earthquake clone. Otherwise, it's pretty weak early-game. (So it can't be abused as a hella powerful bred move!!!). It starts being good late-game, but tehre are stronger moves available for a while. Mind you that many moves outclass each other, and that Wild Charge has great distribution with its TM status, while this one has rather mediocre distribution.

[Mirror Bubble]

This sounds like it competes with Super Surge, another unapproved but suggested move for a spot of "Stronk Psychical Electric Move"

The concept is great though, and honestly I think this looks better overall.

Electrocute sounds like a special move's name however.

[Snaquaza]

Jun 16, 2015 22:06:39 GMT 1 Mirror Bubble said:

This sounds like it competes with Super Surge, another unapproved but suggested move for a spot of "Stronk Psychical Electric Move"

The concept is great though, and honestly I think this looks better overall.

Electrocute sounds like a special move's name however.

Honestly, Super Surge was submitted later and is way too OP right now, not gonna worry about it yet. The reason I made this physical is mostly because I made the flavor in a way to make the Pokemon actually involve making physical contact to produce this shock.

[Galom]

I'm ngl, I don't really see the point of this move, and I'm not fond of the name at all. Seismic Toss and Night Shade already exist, do the exact same thing, and actually have Pokemon that use them to good effect, unlike this move.

To expound, this is the kind of move that I would not use even on an in-game team. Especially considering the Pokemon that get it, all of which get much better options than this move, it will just become a byte of data chilling on the game that nobody touches. 

Electric is generally considered a type based on Speed and outpacing your opponent, and I feel that a stally, defensive move like this does not fit it's flavor very well at all.

[Mirror Bubble]

Jun 16, 2015 22:18:17 GMT 1 Snaquaza said:

Jun 16, 2015 22:06:39 GMT 1 Mirror Bubble said:

This sounds like it competes with Super Surge, another unapproved but suggested move for a spot of "Stronk Psychical Electric Move"

The concept is great though, and honestly I think this looks better overall.

Electrocute sounds like a special move's name however.

Honestly, Super Surge was submitted later and is way too OP right now, not gonna worry about it yet. The reason I made this physical is mostly because I made the flavor in a way to make the Pokemon actually involve making physical contact to produce this shock.

Hrm, guess I can see that happening. I mean, I can't see Amphy pinching anything because it has flippery hands, and so does its mega lol. But yeah the name makes sense even if specific mons look weird with it XD

Electrocute still sounds special if you don't look at the flavor, but with the flavor its plausible.

Both of your moves rek walrein ;-; #StallreinComeBack

Also, I don't see an opposing thumb on Zekrom for it to pinch with lel.
Everything else except amphy on your list has hands and/or claws

Imo a punch, or like a injection of electricity sounds more like the mons you have.

Edit:

Jun 17, 2015 0:39:01 GMT 1 Galom said:

I'm ngl, I don't really see the point of this move, and I'm not fond of the name at all. Seismic Toss and Night Shade already exist, do the exact same thing, and actually have Pokemon that use them to good effect, unlike this move.

To expound, this is the kind of move that I would not use even on an in-game team. Especially considering the Pokemon that get it, all of which get much better options than this move, it will just become a byte of data chilling on the game that nobody touches. 

Electric is generally considered a type based on Speed and outpacing your opponent, and I feel that a stally, defensive move like this does not fit it's flavor very well at all.

imo someone read the OP but not the thread, just based on that second sentence . level = BP, not level = dmg

[Galom]

Mmh, ok, I did misread the OP. I like this move a lot more now that I see the whole Level = Base Power, not Damage, though I still disagree with the name of the move. Do you have any other ideas for it?

[Snaquaza]

Eh, the move was made after the name. I don't have any other ideas right now, although if it's changed it should implying stabbing the Pokemon and inducing a great shock. I have no idea right now, but would be open to suggestions.

[Mirror Bubble]

Strike Voltage, Thunder Jab, Volt Blade, Electro Thrust, jsut a couple top-of-my-head suggestions.

[Snaquaza]

bump?

[Psych]

what about Zap Pinch? I can't think of anything else that I would like outside of that and Electrocute.