[ti]Approved[/ti]Thylasurge + Blitzupial

[Tazonite]

Thylasurge, Stage 1

Type- Electric
Weak to- Ground
Resistant to- Electric, Flying, Steel
Abilities- Reckless, Intimidate
Evolutions- Evolves into Blitzupial at Level 36
Classification- Marsupial Pokemon
Dex Color- Brown
Egg Group(s)- Field
Hatch Time- 5140 Steps
Friendship- 70
Body Shape- Quadruped
Weight- 193.6 lbs / 87.8 kg
Height- 2'00" / 0.61 m
EV Yield- 1 Defense
Exp Yield- 74
Catch Rate- 190
Gender Ratio- 50% Male, 50% Female
Growth- 1,000,000 EXP (Medium Fast)

Dex Information-
Thylasurge's electricity is generated from its tail.  It stalks and tires out prey before moving in with its electricity ready.  They like to hunt alone and are prideful predators.

Final Design

i.imgur.com/8g3xS27.jpg Thylasurge
i.imgur.com/GPnidwl.jpg Shiny Thylasurge

Stats
HP- 40
ATK- 70
DEF- 80
SpA- 30
SpD- 40
SPE- 65
Total- 325

Level-Up
0- Tackle, Leer, Howl, Spark
3- Charge
6- Pound
9- Thunder Shock
12- Odor Sleuth
16- Detect
20- Bite
24- Thunder Fang
29- Night Slash
34- Wild Charge
40- Crunch
45- Sucker Punch
47- Discharge

TMs / HMs
-TM01 Hone Claws
-TM05 Roar
-TM06 Toxic
-TM08 Bulk Up
-TM10 Hidden Power
-TM12 Taunt
-TM17 Protect
-TM21 Frustration
-TM24 Thunderbolt
-TM27 Return
-TM30 Shadow Ball
-TM32 Double Team
-TM40 Aerial Ace
-TM41 Torment
-TM42 Facade
-TM43 Flame Charge
-TM44 Rest
-TM45 Attract
-TM46 Thief
-TM48 Round
-TM56 Fling
-TM57 Charge Beam
-TM66 Payback
-TM67 Retaliate
-TM70 Flash
-TM72 Volt Switch
-TM73 Thunder Wave
-TM87 Swagger
-TM88 Sleep Talk
-TM90 Substitute
-TM93 Wild Charge
-TM94 Secret Power
-TM95 Snarl
-TM97 Dark Pulse
-TM100 Confide

-HM01 Cut

Move Tutors
-Shock Wave
-Signal Beam
-Knock Off
-Super Fang
-Iron Tail
-Hyper Voice
-Foul Play
-Spite
-Snatch
-Magnet Rise

Breeding
-Thunder Fang
-Ice Fang
-Fire Fang
-Nasty Plot
-Thrash
-Play Rough
-Take Down
-Mean Look

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Blitzupial, Final Stage

Type- Electric / Dark
Weak to- Ground, Bug, Fighting, Fairy
Resistant to- Electric, Flying, Steel, Dark, Ghost
Immune to- Psychic
Abilities- Reckless, Intimidate
Evolutions- Evolves from Thylasurge at Level 36
Classification- Super Marsupial Pokemon
Dex Color- Brown
Egg Group(s)- Field
Hatch Time- 5140 Steps
Friendship- 70
Body Shape- Quadruped
Weight- 362.6 lbs / 164.8 kg
Height- 3'00" / 0.91 m
EV Yield- 2 Defense
Exp Yield- 102
Catch Rate- 45
Gender Ratio- 50% Male, 50% Female
Growth- 1,000,000 EXP (Medium Fast)

Dex Information-
It is said that the larger Blitzupial's lightning bolt shaped crest is, the more healthy and powerful it is.  When using electric attacks, the orb on its tail glows.

Final Design Information-

i.imgur.com/cHwydEd.jpg Blitzupial
i.imgur.com/8ts1rxj.jpg Shiny Blitzupial

Stats
HP- 70 
ATK- 100
DEF- 105
SpA- 70
SpD- 60
SPE- 95
Total- 500

Level-Up
0- Tackle, Leer, Spark, Howl, Odor Sleuth
5- Charge
9- Pound
13- Thunder Shock
17- Detect
21- Bite
26- Thunder Fang
31- Fire Fang
37- Crunch
43- Wild Charge
49- Night Slash
55- Sucker Punch
61- Double-Edge
67- Discharge

TMs / HMs
-TM01 Hone Claws
-TM05 Roar
-TM06 Toxic
-TM08 Bulk Up
-TM10 Hidden Power
-TM12 Taunt
-TM15 Hyper Beam
-TM17 Protect
-TM21 Frustration
-TM24 Thunderbolt
-TM25 Thunder
-TM27 Return
-TM30 Shadow Ball
-TM32 Double Team
-TM40 Aerial Ace
-TM41 Torment
-TM42 Facade
-TM43 Flame Charge
-TM44 Rest
-TM45 Attract
-TM46 Thief
-TM48 Round
-TM56 Fling
-TM57 Charge Beam
-TM65 Shadow Claw
-TM66 Payback
-TM67 Retaliate
-TM68 Giga Impact
-TM70 Flash
-TM72 Volt Switch
-TM73 Thunder Wave
-TM87 Swagger
-TM88 Sleep Talk
-TM90 Substitute
-TM93 Wild Charge
-TM94 Secret Power
-TM95 Snarl
-TM97 Dark Pulse
-TM100 Confide

-HM01 Cut
-HM04 Strength
-HM06 Rock Smash

Move Tutors
-Shock Wave
-Signal Beam
-Knock Off
-Super Fang
-Iron Tail
-Hyper Voice
-Foul Play
-Superpower
-Spite
-Snatch
-Magnet Rise

Breeding
-Thunder Fang
-Ice Fang
-Fire Fang
-Nasty Plot
-Thrash
-Play Rough
-Take Down
-Mean Look

[blackburn009]

This is very well thought out

Because I feel I need to find something wrong, volt tackle would ideally remain Pichu line's signature move, and you could create a new physical electric type move for it to use

[nozzle]

This looks very well thought out! Good job on it, couldn't find anythying that was off.

[Tazonite]

Jun 13, 2015 9:25:01 GMT 1 blackburn009 said:

This is very well thought out

Because I feel I need to find something wrong, volt tackle would ideally remain Pichu line's signature move, and you could create a new physical electric type move for it to use

Here's the thing.  I've tried to make up a new Electric type move, but they're all things that are similar to existing moves, especially Volt Tackle.  If Snaquaza wants me to come up with an alternative, then I'll see what I can do.  But otherwise, I don't give a crap about Pikachu's treasured signature move status.  He never uses the move anyway.

[Ace]

I'm liking the concept a lot and it actually seems like this Pokemon line is close to completion. You do need to get rid of Volt Tackle, by the way. I know it's lame that you can't use it and that Pikachu doesn't really user it either but we have to stick the the game traditions as much as possible. I suggest created an alternative if you are desperate for a move similar to that (bare in mind you have to wait for the move to be approved as well if you wish it include it). The rest of this Pokemon is not too shabby, though and I like the typing.

[Tazonite]

Jun 14, 2015 23:46:29 GMT 1 Ace said:

I'm liking the concept a lot and it actually seems like this Pokemon line is close to completion. You do need to get rid of Volt Tackle, by the way. I know it's lame that you can't use it and that Pikachu doesn't really user it either but we have to stick the the game traditions as much as possible. I suggest created an alternative if you are desperate for a move similar to that (bare in mind you have to wait for the move to be approved as well if you wish it include it). The rest of this Pokemon is not too shabby, though and I like the typing.

ps-fakemons.proboards.com/thread/388/surge-seize-physical-electric-move
This is my submitted Volt Tackle replacement.  

PS, could you change your profile pic, it creeps me out

[txnnyo]

Wowza. You have everything that needs to be there. I couldn't find anything off about it or anything you should add / remove. I really wanna see the official design for this thing after that fleshed out description. :]

[Tazonite]

Jun 15, 2015 2:19:25 GMT 1 txnnyo said:

Wowza. You have everything that needs to be there. I couldn't find anything off about it or anything you should add / remove. I really wanna see the official design for this thing after that fleshed out description. :]

Thanks.  With that said, there may be some changes, as the description is just a concept.  I'm still working on Thylasurge- Mawsupial will be obnoxious when the time comes for him to be created.  It's definitely challenging.  But apparently, Volt Tackle has got to go, so I'm hoping I can replace it with the submitted Surge Seize.

[jaywad]

Just a question: Why is intimidate it's hidden ability and strong jaws as the main one?

[Tazonite]

Jun 16, 2015 3:45:50 GMT 1 jaywad said:

Just a question: Why is intimidate it's hidden ability and strong jaws as the main one?

Well for one, I didn't think it mattered.  For another, the animal the final form is based on (thylacoleo carnifex) had a very interesting jaw.
 
Now that pic took up a lot more space than I thought it would....

The thylacoleo had a jaw that, for a long time, had the scientific community split on whether or not it was carnivore or a(n) herbivore.  A full skeleton was found- a rather impressive discovery- and it was deduced that it likely evolved from herbivores and into a carnivore.  It used these jaws to completely crush prey with a bite as powerful as a lion.  Hence Strong Jaw.  It has the moves to use the ability as well.

[Psych]

I like how well this pokemon is thought out. Great job, the picture screams Strong Jaw for me, and I like where you got the inspiration for it.

[Tazonite]

Jun 21, 2015 1:54:13 GMT 1 Psych said:

I like how well this pokemon is thought out. Great job, the picture screams Strong Jaw for me, and I like where you got the inspiration for it.

Thanks.  I see you're trying to become a Charizard.

[Ace]

I was gonna come here and rant at you at how we've already got a Sabre Tooth Tiger in the works but after chatting with you on PS I've realized you've based this on another Animal which has no other Pokemon based on it. So props to you on that...

Stats are fine, you've gotten rid of volt tackle, designs are good, concept and typing is also good. Get rid of Dragon Claw please, only dragon/reptilian Pokemon get this. Outrage is alright, I guess.

[Tazonite]

Jun 22, 2015 3:38:30 GMT 1 Ace said:

I was gonna come here and rant at you at how we've already got a Sabre Tooth Tiger in the works but after chatting with you on PS I've realized you've based this on another Animal which has no other Pokemon based on it. So props to you on that...

Stats are fine, you've gotten rid of volt tackle, designs are good, concept and typing is also good. Get rid of Dragon Claw please, only dragon/reptilian Pokemon get this. Outrage is alright, I guess.

I could get rid of both if you'd like.
What?  You're saying Outrage is cool?
Too late.

[Tazonite]

@ace Maybe if I pretend I'm talking to Chris Pratt, this'll be easier...

I have been showing a lot of impatience for the process that this goes by. I know that this likely comes off as fueled by said impatience. But here I go-
I apologize for the mediocre chat presence I have exerted with my comments. I will minimize the complaining of the system.

I will admit I am no more special than any of the other numerous submissions. My submissions shouldn't be priorities right when they're posted.
So all I will end off with is a request to take another look at the Fakemon, as I feel it is nearly completed.

Thanks for listening Chris Pratt.

[Snaquaza]

Can I say that I feel like the two designs are the same Pokemon with like a ball instead of lights?

[jaywad]

Yeah, The designs seem very similar to eachother. I may know how to differentiate it. Maybe make that long hair of thylasurge be a lot shorter, and for there to be only a few thunderbolt-striped lines on the back. You can also make its tail a bit shorter. Basically, maki it look younger than the evo.
Also, I'm curious to know why you gave it pain split. Also, your level up movepool is a bit short. Try to make them longer by adding some moves like howl and snarl in there. Also, EV yeilds should be 1 and 2, not 2 and 3. 3 is only if it is a 3 stage mon.
Finally, even if you justified Strong jaws, i still feel iffy about it. You stated it bites as strong as a lion right? then why doesn't raikou have it? or pyroar? I don't really think it should get it still.
Buut, everything besides that seems pretty well-thought-out, so nice job

[Snaquaza]

I support jaywad's Strong Jaw arguments. In addition to it, the design doesn't show it having particularly large / strong jaws, like Tyrunt and Sharpedo.

[Tazonite]

Jun 25, 2015 12:06:04 GMT 1 jaywad said:

Yeah, The designs seem very similar to eachother. I may know how to differentiate it. Maybe make that long hair of thylasurge be a lot shorter, and for there to be only a few thunderbolt-striped lines on the back. You can also make its tail a bit shorter. Basically, maki it look younger than the evo.
Also, I'm curious to know why you gave it pain split. Also, your level up movepool is a bit short. Try to make them longer by adding some moves like howl and snarl in there. Also, EV yeilds should be 1 and 2, not 2 and 3. 3 is only if it is a 3 stage mon.
Finally, even if you justified Strong jaws, i still feel iffy about it. You stated it bites as strong as a lion right? then why doesn't raikou have it? or pyroar? I don't really think it should get it still.
Buut, everything besides that seems pretty well-thought-out, so nice job

I wasted my whole night finalizing that design and you just crush it.  I thought they looked good, and the amazing world-renowned architect and design critic Jaywad just crushes it all. (loljk)

I can change the movepool and Strong Jaw and see which other abilities I have.  I don't really know what the standard movepool size is.  I think it fits- I felt like I was putting too many moves on it at first.  To scale, do Pokemon like Luxray or Liepard have bigger movepools?  I can get rid of Pain Split too.  Still not sure how the Chespin line gets it though.  EV yields will be changed too.

I'll just redesign it... AGAIN... and get back to you on that.  PS, would it be okay to keep Mawsupial's design the same if I changed Thylasurge's to make it look younger?  Designing Mawsupial was a living hell, and redesigning it was worse.  So imagine what it was like ReRedesigning it.  And now I may have to ReReRedesign it.  What do you think?

Jun 25, 2015 12:10:40 GMT 1 Snaquaza said:

I support jaywad's Strong Jaw arguments. In addition to it, the design doesn't show it having particularly large / strong jaws, like Tyrunt and Sharpedo.

Now I agree too. It doesn't look like a Strong Jaw Pokemon at all. For future reference, I'm going to remember to design a Pokemon before coming up with stats and stuff.

[jaywad]

Tazonite it's no big deal if u want to keep Mawsupial's design, just make the pre-evo a little different from it's evo. They look similar, so try to cut that down to make them look distinct and still a line.

Edit: I love reckless on this one. Nice job replacing it with this

[Tazonite]

Jun 26, 2015 9:18:10 GMT 1 jaywad said:

Tazonite it's no big deal if u want to keep Mawsupial's design, just make the pre-evo a little different from it's evo. They look similar, so try to cut that down to make them look distinct and still a line.

Edit: I love reckless on this one. Nice job replacing it with this

My problem now is that when I tried to redesign Thylasurge (Stage 1), I has to get rid of a lot of things that ultimately made its design look plain.  Also, it's very difficult trying to replace the tail.  Any suggestions on what kinds of changes you'd make would be very helpful.

Is the movepool still too small?

[jaywad]

Tazonite, the movepool's a bit small. However if u like, I can do the level up movepool for you
About designs, I think if it looked a little bland, then it'd be similar to litleo's design. I'll give some suggestions some other time k?

[Tazonite]

Jun 26, 2015 18:06:45 GMT 1 jaywad said:

Tazonite, the movepool's a bit small. However if u like, I can do the level up movepool for you
About designs, I think if it looked a little bland, then it'd be similar to litleo's design. I'll give some suggestions some other time k?

When we're both active in the chat, I'd like to work on it as a small collaboration.  Again, suggestions for the design would be helpful.

[jaywad]

Jun 26, 2015 18:24:02 GMT 1 Tazonite said:

Jun 26, 2015 18:06:45 GMT 1 jaywad said:

Tazonite, the movepool's a bit small. However if u like, I can do the level up movepool for you
About designs, I think if it looked a little bland, then it'd be similar to litleo's design. I'll give some suggestions some other time k?

When we're both active in the chat, I'd like to work on it as a small collaboration.  Again, suggestions for the design would be helpful.

I gotta go to the mountains these 2 days :I We'll chat when I come back 

[Tazonite]

Jun 26, 2015 18:54:04 GMT 1 jaywad said:

Jun 26, 2015 18:24:02 GMT 1 Tazonite said:

When we're both active in the chat, I'd like to work on it as a small collaboration.  Again, suggestions for the design would be helpful.

I gotta go to the mountains these 2 days :I We'll chat when I come back 

The mountains I don't care about?