[ti]Quality Control[/ti]Drableton, Dratecta, and Nestramal (Approved 0/3)

[selfiehater]

Hi guys, gals, and everybody else! Today, I would like to present you the Monsters of Energy.

(Name suggestions are accepted if you don't like the names.) (I'm actively looking for a designer.)

Detailed Concept to answer most FAQs (Please read these after you examine the actual data of the Pokémon and please actually read these to evaluate my mon):

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            The Normal type of the whole line is there to describe the energy cores that they possess, since there are no types that accurately describe all types of energy as a whole. Moreover, the most close thing to a move that collects energy as a whole is a Normal type move, too - the move Tri Attack. Surely Psychic, Electric, and Fairy exist but;

    - It should be clear by the flavor of them that these things are not f---ing Winx Club members.
    - They don't only use electric energy with their cores - they store and unleash beams and blasts of a combination of light, sound, electricity, heat, and life energy (which is the type of energy Litwick feeds on, also is the type of energy that forms Energy Ball and Shadow Ball); hence the moves Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Flamethrower.
    - "Energy cores" do not describe psychic powers, for Drableton uses an alternation of echolocation to sense its surroundings and to contact with Nestramal, not using weird psychic powers similar to that of the likes of Duosion.

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            Even though there aren't many metaphors hidden in Pokémon games, I have to admit that the Nestramal line has one of the most metaphorical designs of all the Pokémon. While what I'm going to tell you about is not one of the two main themes (One is the colony and one is the powerful energy cores alongside the impenetrable scales.), the whole evolution line secretly describes the life of an average human being whose life is crushed with the socio-economic "system" of the world community nowadays. Of course, if this is approved, the game will most probably not (and should not imo) give any hint about this, since it is a bit dark even for my taste. The resemblance to humans is one of the minor reasons why they are Normal type.
            Drableton describes the baby stage and early childhood of the average human being. During these phases, it is not able to defend itself in any way (Its weak base attacking stats, the move Splash and the ability Weak Armor complement this fact), needing a guardian of some sort to have itself protected. However, as I stated that this is not one of the two main themes I created this Pokémon around, most Drableton are definitely not completely defenseless against threats unlike actual babies, for they can at least rapidly roll away making use of its relatively high Speed stat to find the Nestramal of the colony. 
            Dratecta resemble the adolescence and youth (to like mid-thirties) of the average human being, being full of energy (no pun intended) and actually living their life to their most, soaring the skies (hence the ability Levitate) joyfully without having to care about too much. However, they still have only one job to do - they have to protect their little brothers from the dangers of the forest. They save the Drableton by grabbing them with their hands and carrying them to their nest (For this reason, they have to be significantly faster than Drableton, explaining the high 90 base speed.) The more Drableton they save, the more they get rewarded by nature, the experience making them stronger. This situation symbolizes working in actual life, you get a job, you work hard (aka save more Drableton), and you get rewarded - with money.
            Nestramal symbolizes the rest of life, from working hard as a middle aged person all the way to elderness and the deathbed. The hefty shell of scales surrounding and containing its body actually convey the unforgiving responsibilities. He has been burdened and weakened by all these years of working like a dog (In this sentence outside of the brackets, I am talking about the human, not the Dratecta - it doesn't have that much work) that he has (mentally) collapsed onto the ground since he is not able to cope with the heavy responsibilities depicted by the hefty scales anymore. Because of this, Nestramal is completely immobile for the rest of its life, hence the abysmal 20 base Speed. Despite the fact that Nestramal is finally the head of its family and now has all that power and control in its hands just like the elderly of strong families, its age has brought it even more burdens - most being caused by all the stress in the middle age - like all those typical conditions that elderly people get (cancer, arthritis, dementia etc.), adding even more scales to its back. Furthermore, the odd move Calm Mind in the movepool of Nestramal may be conceived as human's only weapon against all the responsibilites that it has. Moreover, the scales actually form Nestramal's metaphorical coffin, providing it eternal rest once all the Drableton have evolved into Dratecta, and all the Dratecta have flown away from the colony. The shell encloses it just like the coffin they put elderly people after they die, and this is why it has the ability Shell Armor instead of Battle Armor.
        Now, let's move on to the three odd Psychic type moves in the evolution line's movepool: Confusion for all of them, Calm Mind for Nestramal, and Amnesia for Nestramal. I have already explained Calm Mind, so that leaves only Confusion and Amnesia. Metaphorically speaking, Confusion for Drableton complements the fact that Drableton resembles a baby, for a baby knows nothing when it is born, and newly-hatched Drableton move around aimlessly because they know nothing until they learn things. Realistically speaking, the Nestramal line can emit high pitched sound waves and UV light beams to mess up cause minor damage in their opponents' brains, having a small chance to confuse them (same logic used with Confuse Ray). Amnesia symbolizes the many diseases that elderly people (That's why it is learnt so late at level 64.) can acquire - with Alzheimer's syndrome being only one of them. These are the reasons for these three moves to exist in the movepool, and they will not be removed.
        I hope I was able to answer most of the questions that people had, and I also hope this minor metaphor isn't too dark to be approved. I also must emphasize again that this is not the main flavor of Drableton, Dratecta, and Nestramal.

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- They live in forests.
- The energy cores have 10 cm diameters each.

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- Drableton is not a f---ing ripoff from Dragonball. IF IT WAS, I WOULD RELATE ITS NAME TO ONE.

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Design: prntscr.com/9i750e

I know that I draw horribly, please forgive the disturbing lack of skill in the drawing. Also, please realize that this is only a first sketch, please do not make criticisms based only on this drawing.

Drableton
Type: Normal
Abilities: Bulletproof, Run Away, Weak Armor (HA)
Species: Rolling Pokémon

Base Stats: 90 HP / 25 Atk / 50 Def / 40 SpA / 50 SpD / 70 Spe / 320 BST
Dex Entry: - Drableton cannot see, but they emit weak but unique energy pulses which allow them to be able to briefly sense their surroundings while moving and make contact with their parents and brethren. Strange noises can be heard from the energy core inside its hard shell.
               - Even though they are very weak, they sometimes wander off aimlessly into the forest. When one senses being threathened, it immidiately rolls away to find its parents if it is alone.

Height: 0.2 m (0'08")
Weight: 2.1 kg (4.6 lbs)
Gender: 50% Male 50% female
Base Experience Yield: 64 Points
Leveling Rate: 1250000 Exp Points - Slow
EV Yield: 1 HP EV

Egg Group(s): Monster, Dragon
Catch Rate: 225
Steps to Hatch: 10455 - 10709 steps
Base Friendship: 70
Body Shape:  Pomaceous
Pokédex Color: White
Footprint: None

Design:

- It is a perfect sphere.
- There are irregularly shaped small white scales (like the shape of the bones in a human palm) seperated with glowing fire-red lines all over its body. This is due to a fire-red energy core being located inside it.
- It has a smaller, but distinguishable opening (which is colored black inside) on one "side" which is supposed to be a mouth (no teeth inside).

Shiny Design:

The white scales become silver; the red stripes glow in a darker hue, similar to a ruby crystal.

Movepool:

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Level-Up:

(Start) Splash
(Start) Tackle
(2) Defense Curl
(4) Bide
(6) Sand Attack
(10) Rollout
(12) Rapid Spin
(16) Confuse Ray
(18) Sonic Boom
(22) Agility
(26) Dragon Rage
(30) Body Slam
(32) Stockpile
(32) Swallow
(32) Spit Up
(36) Simple Beam
(38) Mirror Coat
(42) Energy Ball
(44) Hyper Beam

TMs & HMs: 

TM04: Calm Mind
TM05: Roar
TM06: Toxic
TM10: Hidden Power
TM12: Taunt
TM15: Hyper Beam
TM17: Protect
TM21: Frustration
TM24: Thunderbolt
TM27: Return
TM32: Double Team
TM35: Flamethrower
TM38: Fire Blast
TM42: Facade
TM44: Rest
TM45: Attract
TM48: Round
TM52: Focus Blast
TM53: Energy Ball
TM64: Explosion
TM70: Flash
TM73: Thunder Wave
TM87: Swagger
TM88: Sleep Talk
TM90: Substitute
TM94: Secret Power
TM96: Nature Power
TM100: Confide
HM06: Rock Smash

Tutor:

Bounce
Dragon Pulse
Iron Defense
Magic Coat
Snore
Stealth Rock

Egg Moves [The (CB) stamp indicates moves that can only be obtained through chain breeding]:

After You (Slowpoke, Slowbro, Snorlax, Mareep, Flaaffy, Ampharos, Slowking, Munchlax, Bergmite, Avalugg)
Curse (Slowpoke, Slowbro, Slowking, Turtwig, Grotle, Torterra, Bergmite, Avalugg)
Dragon Rage (Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard, Gyarados, Dratini, Dragonair, Dragonite, Gible, Gabite, Garchomp, Axew, Fraxure, Haxorus, Druddigon, Deino, Zweilous, Hydreigon)
Dragon Breath (Altaria, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence, Deino, Zweilous, Hydreigon, Goomy, Sliggoo, Goodra)
Endure (CB) (Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, Venusaur, Nidoran-F, Nidoran-M, Nidorino, Nidoking, Cubone, Marowak, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence, Shieldon, Bastiodon, Axew, Fraxure, Haxorus, Goomy, Sliggoo, Goodra)
Focus Energy (Nidoran-M, Nidorino, Nidoking, Cubone, Marowak, Horsea, Seadra, Kingdra, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence, Cranidos, Rampardos, Deino, Zweilous, Hydreigon)
Rage (Cubone, Marowak, Kangaskhan, Totodile, Croconaw, Feraligatr, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence)
Twister (Horsea, Seadra, Gyarados, Dratini, Dragonair, Dragonite, Kingdra, Milotic, Dragalge)

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Dratecta (evolves from Drableton who level up knowing Dragon Rage)
Type: Normal / Dragon
Abilities: Bulletproof, Levitate, Weak Armor (HA)
Species: Protector Pokémon

Base Stats: 100 HP / 40 Atk / 85 Def / 75 SpA / 50 SpD / 90 Spe / 440 BST
Dex Entry: - Drableton and Dratecta live together in colonies. Dratecta's job in the colony is to protect Drableton from danger and provide Nestramal and Drableton food.
               - If a lone Dratecta is soaring the skies, it is close to evolution. It can fire off strong energy beams with the four energy cores located in its mouth, eyes, and back.

Height: 1.8 m (0'08")
Weight: 115.0 kg (253.5 lbs)
Gender: 50% Male 50% female
Base Experience Yield: 154 Points
Leveling Rate: 1250000 Exp Points - Slow
EV Yield: 2 HP EVs

Egg Group(s): Monster, Dragon
Catch Rate: 155
Steps to Hatch: 10455 - 10709 steps
Base Friendship: 35
Body Shape:  Sciurine
Pokédex Color: Black
Footprint: 

Design:

- It stands on two legs when it is not flying. (Kinda looks like this komodo dragon when standing.)
- The pupils of the eyes look like this Venipede's pupils.
- Right eye glows blue, left eye glows green, inside of the mouth glows fire-red (the three energy cores that fire off Tri Attack). The mouth does have teeth now, which are white.
- It has a large, yellow head that resembles this cobra by the shape and and size of the scales, and also the width of the neck. Also, the color palette is very, very similar. However, only the top of its head is covered with black scales (The black ones look like medieval dragon scales, not simple snake scales or the bone-like irregular scales of Drableton. Moreover, they have a regular pattern now.), the rest of the head is completely yellow.
- The black scales completely cover its back from the top of the head all the way down to the top of the tail. However, it has one big spot without scales on his back about 10 cm radius, where the fourth energy core is located. This core glows yellow.
- It has a pair of large black wings just above the yellow core.
- It's body width is similar to this komodo dragon.
- It has white hands with larger palms compared to humans instead of regular dragon claws. This is an adaptation to let Dratecta grab Drableton more easily. The hands are covered in the same type of white, irregular scales that surround Drableton (with non-glowing red lines) and do not have nails.
- The rest of its body (including the feet and the bottom of its medium-sized tail) are covered in the same type of scales that surround Drableton (with non-glowing red lines). Its belly size and width is similar to that of Dragonite. Its foot size and shape is similar to that of Haxorus, but the nails on the feet have a similar shape and size to this komodo dragon. The nails are silver colored.

Shiny Design:

- Black becomes gold; white & yellow become silver; non-glowing red lines stay the same. Moreover, all the energy cores glow purple now.
- The color of the toenails does not change.

Movepool: 

SPOILER: Click to show

Level-up:

(Start) Dragon Rage
(Start) Confusion
(Start) Tackle
(Start) Iron Defense
(5) Bide
(7) Sand Attack
(11) Glare
(13) Defog
(17) Confuse Ray
(19) Sonic Boom
(23) Roost
(25) Agility
(29) Body Slam
(31) Tailwind
(35) Stockpile
(35) Swallow
(35) Spit Up
(37) Simple Beam
(38) Tri Attack
(42) Dragon Pulse
(43) Mirror Coat
(47) Energy Ball
(49) Flamethrower
(53) Hyper Beam
(55) Fire Blast

TMs & HMs:

TM04: Calm Mind
TM05: Roar
TM06: Toxic
TM10: Hidden Power
TM12: Taunt
TM13: Ice Beam
TM15: Hyper Beam
TM17: Protect
TM19: Roost
TM21: Frustration
TM24: Thunderbolt
TM26: Earthquake
TM27: Return
TM32: Double Team
TM35: Flamethrower
TM38: Fire Blast
TM42: Facade
TM44: Rest
TM45: Attract
TM48: Round
TM52: Focus Blast
TM53: Energy Ball
TM64: Explosion
TM70: Flash
TM73: Thunder Wave
TM80: Rock Slide
TM82: Dragon Tail
TM87: Swagger
TM88: Sleep Talk
TM90: Substitute
TM94: Secret Power
TM96: Nature Power
TM100: Confide
HM06: Rock Smash


Tutor:

After You
Bounce
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Endeavor
Helping Hand
Heal Pulse
Iron Defense
Iron Tail
Knock Off
Magic Coat
Outrage
Pain Split
Snore
Stealth Rock
Tailwind

Egg Moves [The (CB) stamp indicates moves that can only be obtained through chain breeding]:

After You (Slowpoke, Slowbro, Snorlax, Mareep, Flaaffy, Ampharos, Slowking, Munchlax, Bergmite, Avalugg)
Dragon Rage (Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard, Gyarados, Dratini, Dragonair, Dragonite, Gible, Gabite, Garchomp, Axew, Fraxure, Haxorus, Druddigon, Deino, Zweilous, Hydreigon)
Dragon Breath (Altaria, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence, Deino, Zweilous, Hydreigon, Goomy, Sliggoo, Goodra)
Endure (CB) (Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, Venusaur, Nidoran-F, Nidoran-M, Nidorino, Nidoking, Cubone, Marowak, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence, Shieldon, Bastiodon, Axew, Fraxure, Haxorus, Goomy, Sliggoo, Goodra)
Focus Energy (Nidoran-M, Nidorino, Nidoking, Cubone, Marowak, Horsea, Seadra, Kingdra, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence, Cranidos, Rampardos, Deino, Zweilous, Hydreigon)
Rage (Cubone, Marowak, Kangaskhan, Totodile, Croconaw, Feraligatr, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence)
Twister (Horsea, Seadra, Gyarados, Dratini, Dragonair, Dragonite, Kingdra, Milotic, Dragalge)

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Nestramal (evolves from Dratecta that level up to 41)
Type: Normal / Dragon
Abilities: Bulletproof, Soundproof, Shell Armor (HA)
Species: Colossal Pokémon
Base Stats: 170 HP / 65 Atk / 110 Def / 110 SpA / 50 SpD / 20 Spe / 525 BST
Dex Entry: - Drableton and Dratecta live together in colonies with each colony having Nestramal as its alpha, who provides small nests within its humongous body for the Drableton. 
               - The massive body and the impenetratable dragon scales it gained upon evolution are too heavy and dense for it to move, hear, or fly. It fires off devastating energy blasts from its three energy cores located on its head, back, and tail if it senses a big threat.
                        
Height: 6.2 m (20'04")
Weight: 650.0 kg (1433.0 lbs)
Gender: 50% Male 50% female
Base Experience Yield: 236 Points
Leveling Rate: 1250000 Exp Points - Slow
EV Yield: 3 HP EVs

Egg Group(s): Monster, Dragon
Catch Rate: 35
Steps to Hatch: 10455 - 10709 steps
Base Friendship: 35
Body Shape:  Alvine
Pokédex Color: Black
Footprint: 

Design:

- It lies on the ground, being completely immobile. It only has the power to move its tail and eyes which are yellow now and look like this Venipede's eyes. The eyes also have lost their ability to glow.
- Its body shape somewhat resembles a Venipede. It has three lobes instead of Venipede's four lobes though resembles the croissant on the right of this picture. 
- Its head is just a bigger version of Dratecta's, but the yellow cobra scales are a bit paler now (to be able to distinguish the yellow eyes). The blue&green energy cores have almost fused into one (looks like a MasterCard logo), and are now located on the top of the head.
- The hefty black scales form a semi-exoskeleton now (they still follow a regular pattern), and now are much bigger and they look like something between Sydney Opera House, this bug and Gyarados. Thus, its four feet (The hands have transformed into other feet.) and white belly is not visible under the massive body. The head and the tail escape out through two narrow openings, but the tail is completely black now and is a bit shorter than Dratecta's.
- The yellow energy core is still located on its back, glowing as usual.
- The red energy core is now located on the tip of the tail, surrounded within the same type of white, irregular scales that surround Drableton (Yes, its tip of the tail is a mini-Drableton with no mouth-like opening.). Of course, the red lines glow again, due to an energy core being located in the sphere.
- It has smaller wings, but not too small.

Shiny Design:

- The white scales on the tip of the tail become silver, but the energy core inside it, and thus the red lines glow purple.
- The eyes stay yellow.
- The energy cores glow purple.
- The bottom of its head is now orange, not silver.
- The wings stay black unlike Dratecta's wings.
- The rest of the black part becomes golden.

Movepool:

SPOILER: Click to show

Level-up:

(Start) Dragon Rage
(Start) Flamethrower
(Start) Iron Defense
(6) Bide
(8) Sand Attack
(16) Defog
(18) Confuse Ray
(20) Sonic Boom
(24) Roost
(26) Earth Power
(30) Body Slam
(32) Heavy Slam
(36) Stockpile
(36) Swallow
(36) Spit Up
(38) Simple Beam
(40) Tri Attack
(44) Calm Mind
(46) Dragon Pulse
(50) Mirror Coat
(52) Energy Ball
(56) Flamethrower
(58) Hyper Beam
(62) Fire Blast
(64) Amnesia

TMs & HMs:

TM04: Calm Mind
TM05: Roar
TM06: Toxic
TM10: Hidden Power
TM12: Taunt
TM13: Ice Beam
TM15: Hyper Beam
TM17: Protect
TM19: Roost
TM21: Frustration
TM24: Thunderbolt
TM26: Earthquake
TM27: Return
TM30: Shadow Ball
TM32: Double Team
TM35: Flamethrower
TM38: Fire Blast
TM42: Facade
TM44: Rest
TM45: Attract
TM48: Round
TM52: Focus Blast
TM53: Energy Ball
TM64: Explosion
TM70: Flash
TM73: Thunder Wave
TM80: Rock Slide
TM82: Dragon Tail
TM87: Swagger
TM88: Sleep Talk
TM90: Substitute
TM94: Secret Power
TM96: Nature Power
TM100: Confide
HM06: Rock Smash

Tutor:

After You
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Endeavor
Heal Pulse
Iron Defense
Iron Tail
Knock Off
Magic Coat
Pain Split
Snore
Stealth Rock

Egg Moves [The (CB) stamp indicates moves that can only be obtained through chain breeding]:

After You (Slowpoke, Slowbro, Snorlax, Mareep, Flaaffy, Ampharos, Slowking, Munchlax, Bergmite, Avalugg)
Curse (Slowpoke, Slowbro, Slowking, Turtwig, Grotle, Torterra, Bergmite, Avalugg)
Dragon Rage (Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard, Gyarados, Dratini, Dragonair, Dragonite, Gible, Gabite, Garchomp, Axew, Fraxure, Haxorus, Druddigon, Deino, Zweilous, Hydreigon)
Dragon Breath (Altaria, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence, Deino, Zweilous, Hydreigon, Goomy, Sliggoo, Goodra)
Endure (CB) (Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, Venusaur, Nidoran-F, Nidoran-M, Nidorino, Nidoking, Cubone, Marowak, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence, Shieldon, Bastiodon, Axew, Fraxure, Haxorus, Goomy, Sliggoo, Goodra)
Focus Energy (Nidoran-M, Nidorino, Nidoking, Cubone, Marowak, Horsea, Seadra, Kingdra, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence, Cranidos, Rampardos, Deino, Zweilous, Hydreigon)
Rage (Cubone, Marowak, Kangaskhan, Totodile, Croconaw, Feraligatr, Bagon, Shelgon, Salamence)
Twister (Horsea, Seadra, Gyarados, Dratini, Dragonair, Dragonite, Kingdra, Milotic, Dragalge)

[Devoxys]

Good Start!

Suggestions:
-Fix the spacing!
-The design right now is very vague. Its necessary to make a full review (for context and stuff)
-The speed drop is too large. It should only drop to 35 at most.
-The first Dex Entry for Drableton and Nestramal are a bit too long.
-Nestramal base exp yield is wrong; should be 236
-Dratecta base exp yield is wrong; should be 154
-Drableton bease exp yield is wrong, should be 64
-Nestramal EV yield should be 3 HP
-Dratecta EV yield should be 2 HP

[Cyberknight98]

This looks like it could be an interesting design! We definitely need some more descriptions, move pools, etc., and I think you should be able to raise the speed stat a little without lowering too much else, as Haxorus has a BST of 540. Also, make sure not to make them look too much like Shelgon, as that was the first thing that popped into my head while reading the descriptions. Looking forward to seeing this develop

[selfiehater]

Dec 8, 2015 2:33:26 GMT 1 Devoxys said:

Good Start!

Suggestions:
-Fix the spacing!
-The design right now is very vague. Its necessary to make a full review (for context and stuff)
-The speed drop is too large. It should only drop to 35 at most.
-The first Dex Entry for Drableton and Nestramal are a bit too long.
-Nestramal base exp yield is wrong; should be 236
-Dratecta base exp yield is wrong; should be 154
-Drableton bease exp yield is wrong, should be 64
-Nestramal EV yield should be 3 HP
-Dratecta EV yield should be 2 HP

Fixed the spacing issue and the base Exp Yields of each Pokémon. I also changed Dratecta's EV yield to 2 HP EVs, but didn't change Nestramal's, for I want to emphasize its physical durability.


Also, I had designed Nestramal to be completely immobile (I will explain the reason soon when i provide an lore-like appendix for people to understand the whole concept.). I even removed the statement in its dex entry that it can fly (The small wings stay there though, being as useful as the appendix of the human intestines.).

[Cyberknight98]

You could give Nestramal Stall and raise its base stats to compensate, similar to how Slaking has a hindering ability, while Vigoroth doesn't.

[selfiehater]

Dec 8, 2015 2:33:26 GMT 1 Devoxys said:

Good Start!

Suggestions:

-Nestramal EV yield should be 3 HP
-Dratecta EV yield should be 2 HP

After a bit of thinking (and some private discussion made with Cyberknight98 ), I actually now agree to make Nestramal's EV yield to be 3 HP, since 170 base HP is way too high to have it yield less than 3 HP EVs.

Also, I'm not hesitant on Levitate for Dratecta anymore.

[Devoxys]

selfiehater, than at least lower the speed of Drableton and Dractecta.

[Cyberknight98]

Yeah, I suggested that as well. Most second stage dragon types have about 410-420 BST. For Drableton, just add +10 to both defenses and lower its speed by 20.

[selfiehater]

Dec 8, 2015 2:33:26 GMT 1 Devoxys said:

Good Start!

Suggestions:
-The design right now is very vague. Its necessary to make a full review (for context and stuff)
-The speed drop is too large. It should only drop to 35 at most.

Ok, I did the full review, Devoxys and Cyberknight98 , hope I was able the answer all the questions you had, the most important one being why I am so persistent on 20 speed. Will provide a thorough description of the mons asap.

[Devoxys]

I see no difference. The design is still unfinished and the speed still has not been changed.

[Cyberknight98]

The flavor is... interesting, to say the least. You still need to post the move pools of each fakemon, as you mention them getting moves in your description, but we have no reference back to it.

[selfiehater]

Cyberknight98 , I finished the movepool except Egg Moves; I'm planning to finish the Egg Moves, footprints, and thorough descriptions later tonight.

Is there any problem with the level-up movepool except Energy Ball? Do the levels seem a bit random (cuz they aren't supposed to be random lol)?

[Devoxys]

Finish the design .-.

Questionable Moves:
Drableton: You should remove: Infestation Suggestions: Consider reducing some of the movepool. Maybe remove one or two moves on the more powerful side, like Fire Blast. Taunt and Energy Ball are in a gray area, try asking for more opinions on it.

Dratecta: You should remove: Surf (the "x learns it so why not give it to y" argument is not valid).

Nestramal: You should remove: Surf.

Suggestions:
Try making the movepool more uniform. You are giving moves that one evo can learn but not the others. This is fine, but its happening at a scale where its a bit too much, especially on Dratecta. Make some changes; perhaps leaving some, giving some to other evos, or remove some. Also, Hyper Beam/Energy Ball/Flamethrower/Fire Blast are jumping around (switching their order between evos).

[selfiehater]

Fixed the movepool a bit, and finally completed the long-awaited description of the Fakémon. I hope it is detailed enough for you guys, Devoxys and Cyberknight98

[Devoxys]

The design descriptions are good n.n

On Dratecta
(25) Sonic Boom
(26) Roost
(27) Tailwind
(28) Body Slam
(29) Agility
What?

Same thing here: (On Drableton)
(25) Sonic Boom
(26) Roost

[selfiehater]

"Its body shape somewhat resembles a Venipede. It has three lobes instead of Venipede's four lobes though."

This sentence had been bugging me a lot, because the design in my head looked nothing like a Venipede. I finally found out what it looks like today: a croissant.


Also, should I make different forms of Drableton to represent different energy cores?

[selfiehater]

Dec 11, 2015 21:56:52 GMT 1 Devoxys said:

Finish the design .-.

Questionable Moves:
Drableton: You should remove: Infestation Suggestions: Consider reducing some of the movepool. Maybe remove one or two moves on the more powerful side, like Fire Blast. Taunt and Energy Ball are in a gray area, try asking for more opinions on it.

Dratecta: You should remove: Surf (the "x learns it so why not give it to y" argument is not valid).

Nestramal: You should remove: Surf.

Suggestions:
Try making the movepool more uniform. You are giving moves that one evo can learn but not the others. This is fine, but its happening at a scale where its a bit too much, especially on Dratecta. Make some changes; perhaps leaving some, giving some to other evos, or remove some. Also, Hyper Beam/Energy Ball/Flamethrower/Fire Blast are jumping around (switching their order between evos).

Ok Devoxys, Cyberknight98, fixed the movepool a bit, should look much better now. Also addressed to the level-up movepool issue, the levels seem less random now.

Also, should I make different forms for Drableton to represent the different types of energy cores?

[Devoxys]

No. The base evo should not have forms.

Also, the level-up move levels seem to be random, which they should not be. It should be a pattern. One way is to do intervals like this: 2, 2, 2, 2, 4, 4, 4, 6, 6, 6. Then, for the evo(s), raise each interval by one (so you are using 3, 5, and 7). Another way is to alternate intervals, like this: 2, 4, 2, 4, 2, 4, 2... For the evo, once again, raise each interval by one.

[selfiehater]

Fine with me, didn't want to make them anyways.

[selfiehater]

Fixed the movepool completely as its final form, even added egg moves to compensate.

Sorry for using a different pattern than you suggested and even kinda breaking that pattern on Dratecta's these five moves:
(35) Spit Up
(37) Simple Beam
(38) Tri Attack
(42) Dragon Pulse
(43) Mirror Coat

I distorted the level-up pattern here quite a bit, I did this to distinguish Dratecta's movepool from the others. Otherwise, it looks too similar. The Fakémon guide says "Don't follow a pattern too religiously" anyways.

Well, Devoxys and Cyberknight98 , don't you guys agree on moving this to QC after I add the footprints? Or is there something wrong with the egg moves? Should I add Play Rough (from Dragalge line) to the egg moves?

I need some suggestions rn.

[selfiehater]

- Drableton is not a f---ing ripoff from Dragonball. IF IT WAS, I WOULD RELATE ITS NAME TO ONE.

smh Salient...

[SirMinun]

I need to see what this pokemon looks like, Im having a hard time imagining its composition with the names and descriptions. Please explain the mixture of names for me. As in what words do their names consist of.

[Devoxys]

selfiehater, go through the egg moves once more and check the egg parents. Be careful that not too many moves are being taught using chain breeding. For example, Razor Wind from Grovyle or Play Rough from Dragalge. The best way to do this is to a) use /learn or b) look through a Pokemon in only the Monster egg group or only the Dragon egg group (or in both, not sure if that exists), and copy those moves.

[selfiehater]

Dec 14, 2015 2:55:38 GMT 1 Devoxys said:

selfiehater , go through the egg moves once more and check the egg parents. Be careful that not too many moves are being taught using chain breeding. For example, Razor Wind from Grovyle or Play Rough from Dragalge. The best way to do this is to a) use /learn or b) look through a Pokemon in only the Monster egg group or only the Dragon egg group (or in both, not sure if that exists), and copy those moves.

I don't get it, Devoxys , even with the official addition of Play Rough and Curse, only three moves can only be obtained through chain breeding. Is even three too much, are you trying to tell me something else and I'm just not getting your point?

SirMinun , the names actually seem too simple when I explain them to people.

- Dratecta is a combination Dragon and Protector.
- Nestramal is a combination of Dragon, Nest, and Normal.
- Drableton is... complicated, to say the very least. Its original name, "Drable", was a combination of Dragon and Marble, which also could indicate Travel, since they always roll around in the forest. However, that sounded too much like Dragonball (f--- Dragonball), so I refrained from using that name. The "-ton" sound at the end is just for audio purposes tbh, it sounds much better this way. But if that isn't allowed, I'll change it to something like Drablegee (from Dragon, Marble, and Energy) or Drollerble (from Dragon, Roller, and Marble). I really don't want to, though; Drableton sounds much better.

Any suggestions, Cyberknight98 ?

[Cyberknight98]

Well... I hate to say this so late in development, but I think the names are too much of a mouthful tbh... I know you spent a lot of time on making combinations of words, but you had to explain the origin of each name in detail. It's just really complicated and players won't understand the origins of the names.