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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 1:31:47 GMT 1
Hello everyone! This thread will be chiefly for brainstorming ideas of the main story arc in the game. Who will be the protagonist? What will be the central conflict? These questions (and more) must be answered! Feel free to share any ideas you may have. Also, if you think of a theme our game should have, share that here
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Post by tpcaosa on Apr 22, 2015 5:23:50 GMT 1
Maybe the whole region could be based on Australia-esk things like a desert and big cities and like the opera house in Sydney could be a gym and like a team is threatening to create a large tsunami to revitalize the desert but it would destroy all the cities but the evil team is willing to create one anyways. Maybe?? (i put this on map but i think this is a better category though)\
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Post by collinbu98 on Apr 22, 2015 11:39:19 GMT 1
I think that an evil team wanting to create tsunami's would be to similar to Team Aqua.
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Post by blackburn009 on Apr 22, 2015 16:19:30 GMT 1
And then there's another team who wants to turn the whole region into desert
yeah I agree it is a little too similar to RSE storyline
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Post by Floette on Apr 22, 2015 22:14:13 GMT 1
You can make your story fit where the region is located. For instance, if you're setting it in Mexico you could have some death god Mayan rituals as a part of your story and the evil team wants to use that power for something, potentially for the creation of Mega Evolution or something.
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Post by Saverdien on Apr 23, 2015 2:01:48 GMT 1
I was thinking that the villainous team could have a goal to capture as many Pokemon as they can and like with the Iron Masked Marauder in Pokemon 4ever, painfully (and magically) have them trained to their maximum potential and have them only obey the team. (Maybe they put in like a little mind chip inside the Pokes or do something like Team Dim Sun uses. Whatever those machine thingies are called.) After they have done that, their next step is to go to all of the region's major points and cities and begin to wreak havoc with their empowered Pokemon.
You could say that they want all peeps and Pokemon to basically be enslaved by the team or something. Oh, and how's the name Team Corona sound?
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Post by Floette on Apr 23, 2015 7:10:59 GMT 1
I was thinking that the villainous team could have a goal to capture as many Pokemon as they can and like with the Iron Masked Marauder in Pokemon 4ever, painfully (and magically) have them trained to their maximum potential and have them only obey the team. (Maybe they put in like a little mind chip inside the Pokes or do something like Team Dim Sun uses. Whatever those machine thingies are called.) After they have done that, their next step is to go to all of the region's major points and cities and begin to wreak havoc with their empowered Pokemon. You could say that they want all peeps and Pokemon to basically be enslaved by the team or something. Oh, and how's the name Team Corona sound? Team Corona is a bit odd considering Corona is Latin for crown or garland. So you'd have Grass and Steel types for the team?
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Post by Simbada on Apr 23, 2015 10:14:28 GMT 1
Here's a rough idea on player freedom and it's possible implementation in the game.
>On player freedom, from the framework that there are two opposing groups that share diametrically opposed wishes to redefine the world, the player should be able, for the first time, to decide which side they want to help, or whether they wish to keep the status quo and continue a story arc as is witnessed in all previous Pokemon games. To influence the player's decision, the town's NPC's will hold their own opinions of each side, if not remain indifferent, if not intolerable of both groups, and depending on which side you assist, your agenda, they will either ignore, revere, or remain, as said before, be indifferent towards you. This brings a notion to the player that you are creating an impact and that the NPC's are real people with real opinions and lives.
>(Problem 1)There is too much freedom or too much restriction for the player to gain or lose out on experience points.
>(solution to Problem 1)There has to be an implicit restriction that the player can not be passive for the sake of gaining exp. points... There only needs to be one scenario to conclude which side, if any, the player wants to be on... To avoid an abundance of exp. points gained (if exp. points are a problem) the beta rival group will just avoid you due your success against the opposing group. In this scenario, the rival group when confronted will have to undergo a series of dialogue that demonstrates their intimidation of you and shudder away (which should be perceived as a little comedic and oddly satisfying). The player should have the opportunity to change their side at some latter part of the game, around the 6th badge maybe.
>In the end, depending on the player's choices, there will be a summary in the end of the game of what events triggered from your actions. Which I would hope, interest the player to play again and achieve a different story line.
If this were implemented, the most likely thing that would have to be changed is text. And of course the ending of the game.
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Post by collinbu98 on Apr 23, 2015 22:04:06 GMT 1
catmanv, this isn't Infamous or any other game like that. It's Pokémon. Pokémon is already complicated enough with all of the different Pokémon there are to catch. Your idea is to bold for a game already as large as Pokémon is. Sorry.
But what I think we should do is, we make a ghost type team and a physic team. The ghost team wishes to wipe out all life so that the dead may rest in peace and the physic team wants to get rid of all ghosts so that the living can move on.
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Post by Saverdien on Apr 23, 2015 22:14:38 GMT 1
I was thinking that the villainous team could have a goal to capture as many Pokemon as they can and like with the Iron Masked Marauder in Pokemon 4ever, painfully (and magically) have them trained to their maximum potential and have them only obey the team. (Maybe they put in like a little mind chip inside the Pokes or do something like Team Dim Sun uses. Whatever those machine thingies are called.) After they have done that, their next step is to go to all of the region's major points and cities and begin to wreak havoc with their empowered Pokemon. You could say that they want all peeps and Pokemon to basically be enslaved by the team or something. Oh, and how's the name Team Corona sound? Team Corona is a bit odd considering Corona is Latin for crown or garland. So you'd have Grass and Steel types for the team? I actually came up with the name from the definition involving the sun a few years ago. (Don't really know the exact definition, however) And I just realized it is also a brand of beer, so I probs want to rethink the name
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Post by Simbada on Apr 23, 2015 22:17:05 GMT 1
@collinblu98
True, there is already enough player freedom as it is when it comes to creating your own team.
I offered the idea so that it could give people a possible idea they could work with in the story line. As said before, it's not that difficult to accomplish, there need only be changes in text dialogue.
Also, I think there should be a female professor to start the game off
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Post by Devoxys on Apr 24, 2015 2:11:36 GMT 1
I've though of some things I'd just like to dump here: -A team who tries to manipulate a Sun God Legendary Mascot to fry the Earth and everyone except them so they can "make the world pure" (I know this sounds like Team Flare, but whatever) -Or the opposite, using a the Moon God Legendary Mascot to make an eternal night
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Post by Simbada on Apr 24, 2015 3:49:11 GMT 1
I've though of some things I'd just like to dump here: -A team who tries to manipulate a Sun God Legendary Mascot to fry the Earth and everyone except them so they can "make the world pure" (I know this sounds like Team Flare, but whatever) -Or the opposite, using a the Moon God Legendary Mascot to make an eternal night Simpons did it Lol and Lunatone and Solrock get megaevolutions. Nope. Also, in the end, how will a decision be made? Will there be a poll to decide which theme is the better idea? This is directed @snackismybae, @snaquaza, and Ace
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 22:13:13 GMT 1
Simbada, people who want to create a story will likely need to create a document with everything mapped out with their ideas, central conflict, etc. and then put it to a forums-wide poll with moderators having final say. More on this once the region/map has been decided.
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Post by Snaquaza on Apr 24, 2015 22:16:07 GMT 1
I don't want to be a hypebreaker, but make sure these ideas are doable. I think having a general with a few special thigns would be fun enough already, but I don't know if we'll be able to create a customizable ending, or at least not many.
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Post by theburgerking99 on Apr 25, 2015 0:35:27 GMT 1
I like the mexican death god idea. How about team evil is stealing and sacrificing trainers' pokemon to a Mayan death god type Pokemon.
Like, the story could start out being about missing pokemon, and everyone is wondering where they went. And when you investigate it a bit more, boom, they've been sacrificed
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Post by Floette on Apr 25, 2015 0:51:42 GMT 1
I like the mexican death god idea. How about team evil is stealing and sacrificing trainers' pokemon to a Mayan death god type Pokemon. Like, the story could start out being about missing pokemon, and everyone is wondering where they went. And when you investigate it a bit more, boom, they've been sacrificed I've done something similar to this before, it's actually quite fun. You could say that they are using the "Life Force" of Pokémon to create new Mega Evolutions, which actually puts an incredible dark twist on the origins of Mega Evolutions.
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Post by theburgerking99 on Apr 25, 2015 0:53:09 GMT 1
That actually sounds really cool. Part of what I like about making romhacks (assuming this will be one) is that it lets you get a lot darker with the story than you would normally be able to, since it's not made with kids in mind.
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Post by Floette on Apr 25, 2015 0:57:45 GMT 1
That actually sounds really cool. Part of what I like about making romhacks (assuming this will be one) is that it lets you get a lot darker with the story than you would normally be able to, since it's not made with kids in mind. You can't get too dark so I'm not investigating the disappearance of Pokémon is so great as it is morbid. Besides the aim of the game is to go through the gyms and get the badges.
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Post by theburgerking99 on Apr 25, 2015 0:59:24 GMT 1
That actually sounds really cool. Part of what I like about making romhacks (assuming this will be one) is that it lets you get a lot darker with the story than you would normally be able to, since it's not made with kids in mind. You can't get too dark so I'm not investigating the disappearance of Pokémon is so great as it is morbid. Besides the aim of the game is to go through the gyms and get the badges. To be fair, that's more of a way of measuring game progress than the plot of the game. The actual story is always about the evil teams, not the gyms.
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Post by Floette on Apr 25, 2015 1:00:51 GMT 1
You can't get too dark so I'm not investigating the disappearance of Pokémon is so great as it is morbid. Besides the aim of the game is to go through the gyms and get the badges. To be fair, that's more of a way of measuring game progress than the plot of the game. The actual story is always about the evil teams, not the gyms. True but there isn't a real motivation to sacrifice Pokémon besides power-hunger.
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Post by theburgerking99 on Apr 25, 2015 1:03:32 GMT 1
To be fair, that's more of a way of measuring game progress than the plot of the game. The actual story is always about the evil teams, not the gyms. True but there isn't a real motivation to sacrifice Pokémon besides power-hunger. Well again, the idea would be that the sacrifices were to gain the attention of one of the cover legendaries. Essentially make the legendary like an ancient god of death that stopped giving a fuck 100 years ago, and have team evil trying to wake it up so they can capture it and use it for world domination.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 1:08:58 GMT 1
I don't really like the idea about going along with the same format that ALL the other main pokemon games have had. The 1 or 2 team trying to take over the world motif is getting a little dry. Something radically different would be refreshing.
Some ideas I had! -A large war is happening between many rival nations. Maybe something like World War II would make for a very different game experience. The player could decide between two storylines: stay at home and protect his town (but end up getting kidnapped or taken to a work camp), or go off to war and fight with his comrades and pokemon.
-Extreme climate change. Humanity has gone too far with its consumption, use of resources, loss of habitat for pokemon, extinction of pokemon (even common pokemon like pikachu, zubat, etc have gone extinct), and now the Pokemon World is having rapid fluctuation in weather and the Pokemon have retaliated against the humans, over-running cities, etc...
-You are the leader of a crime syndicate which poaches, kills, and traffics exotic Pokemon to other regions. You are being chased down by the feds/interpol or something and you must hide in plain sight. Stuff goes down and you can either choose to continue to poach Pokemon, or have a change of heart and become an environmentalist.
-The Pokemon World is going to end in 100 years as foretold by the world's leading scientists (the sun is going to eat up the planet). You are one of the lucky 100 who get to travel into outerspace and travel to a habitable world using the technology introduced in ORAS. You enter through a wormhole with 99 other people and come to a planet in a galaxy far away. The earth's scientists say this is a habitable planet, but what you find will amaze you...
-You are the local police chief to a major city. There have been a string of disappearances revolving around Pokemon Trainers. You must find out why these people are disappearing. (It turns out to be aliens)
-Panic has struck the competitive Pokemon scene. GameFreak has decided to end the main series games and you are freaking out trying to think what you will ever do with your life. You look on the internet and find this person saying they can bring you into a virtual reality of the Pokemon World. When you finally strap yourself into the gear, it turns out they will take you to another dimension where Pokemon is a reality... (this is my fav idea)
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Post by Floette on Apr 25, 2015 1:41:29 GMT 1
I don't really like the idea about going along with the same format that ALL the other main pokemon games have had. The 1 or 2 team trying to take over the world motif is getting a little dry. Something radically different would be refreshing. Some ideas I had! -A large war is happening between many rival nations. Maybe something like World War II would make for a very different game experience. The player could decide between two storylines: stay at home and protect his town (but end up getting kidnapped or taken to a work camp), or go off to war and fight with his comrades and pokemon. -Extreme climate change. Humanity has gone too far with its consumption, use of resources, loss of habitat for pokemon, extinction of pokemon (even common pokemon like pikachu, zubat, etc have gone extinct), and now the Pokemon World is having rapid fluctuation in weather and the Pokemon have retaliated against the humans, over-running cities, etc... -You are the leader of a crime syndicate which poaches, kills, and traffics exotic Pokemon to other regions. You are being chased down by the feds/interpol or something and you must hide in plain sight. Stuff goes down and you can either choose to continue to poach Pokemon, or have a change of heart and become an environmentalist. -The Pokemon World is going to end in 100 years as foretold by the world's leading scientists (the sun is going to eat up the planet). You are one of the lucky 100 who get to travel into outerspace and travel to a habitable world using the technology introduced in ORAS. You enter through a wormhole with 99 other people and come to a planet in a galaxy far away. The earth's scientists say this is a habitable planet, but what you find will amaze you... -You are the local police chief to a major city. There have been a string of disappearances revolving around Pokemon Trainers. You must find out why these people are disappearing. (It turns out to be aliens) -Panic has struck the competitive Pokemon scene. GameFreak has decided to end the main series games and you are freaking out trying to think what you will ever do with your life. You look on the internet and find this person saying they can bring you into a virtual reality of the Pokemon World. When you finally strap yourself into the gear, it turns out they will take you to another dimension where Pokemon is a reality... (this is my fav idea) The last is one is a game about entering a game? I'm a bit confused. I personally like the climate change and new world one. With the climate change one, you could have the villanous team try restore the climate to what it was using Legendary Pokémon without actually understanding the consequences that would actually bring about, i.e. mass genocide. So maybe the "pure of heart" playable character can prove to the Legendary Mon that these climate changes were not the faults of humans, or were the result of the human action, showing the humility of the human race. For the new planet one, it'd make more sense either being the child or the grandchild of one of those people. I say child because, really, the initial group would mainly focus on trying to build a new world, not explore it while their children or grandchildren would be given that opportunity. However, being a child would mean that it would not be a conventional Pokémon story in any way as you're exploring, not going around battling or trading. On the other hand though, it'd be super-cool to be able to make your own town! I say grandchild because the child would probably be imposed with the Survivor's Guilt given to them by their parents. Also, so there's more places to visit, y'know.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 1:59:45 GMT 1
Floette, by the last one, yes. You are in a game, then you enter a Pokemon simulator lol. It's meta af.
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