[ti]Approved[/ti]Antagon + Antonize

[Cyberknight98]

Antogon: the Swarm Pokémon

Bug/Dark-type

50 HP | 75 Atk | 25 Def | 25 SpA | 25 SpD | 75 Spe || BST: 285

Abilities: Swarm or Rivalry

Hidden Ability (Available): Unnerve

Evolves into Antonize starting at level 30.

Design: Antagon is a small insect-like pokemon with 4 legs.  Two tentacle-like appendages rise out near the top of its back, between where its shoulders would be.  There is a noticable hole at the end of each tentacle, where a large, retractable claw can spring out.  Antagon has two body segments and 6 eyes, 3 parallel two each other in the middle of its head.  It has large mandibles and its main colors are black with a large red spot on its back and its head.  Its main colors when shiny is blue and a purple spot on its back and head.  

Physical Details:

Height (at shoulder): 1'4" (0.4m)

Weight: 15 lbs (7 kg) [20 BP]

Egg Group: Bug

Gender Ratio: 50% Male, 50% Female

Pokedex Color: Black

Technical details:

Catch Rate: 120

Hatch Time: 6366 - 5609 steps

Experience Yield: 57

Leveling Rate: Medium Fast

Base Friendship: 35

EV Yield: 1 ATK

Pokédex Entries:

OR: While tiny and weak alone, these pokemon live in large swarms, able to surround and devour any intruder.

AS: With their sharp claws and mandibles, they can tear through steel. They live in large swarms.

Level-up moves:

Start: Scratch

Start: Leer

Level 3: Fury Cutter

Level 7: Astonish

Level 11: Twineedle

Level 15: Bug Bite

Level 18: Assurance

Level 21: Bite

Level 25: Beat Up

Level 28: Cross Poison

Level 32: Knock Off

Level 35: Night Slash

Level 37: U-Turn

Level 41: X-Scissor

Level 46: Swords Dance

Level 51: Crunch

TM/HM moves:

TM01: Hone Claws

TM02: Dragon Claw

TM06: Toxic

TM10: Hidden Power

TM12: Taunt

TM15: Hyper Beam

TM17: Protect

TM27: Return

TM28: Dig

TM32: Double Team

TM40: Aerial Ace
TM42: Facade

TM44: Rest

TM45: Attract

TM46: Thief

TM49: Echoed Voice

TM54: False Swipe

TM56: Fling

TM63: Embargo

TM65: Shadow Claw

TM66: Payback

TM68: Giga Impact

TM76: Struggle Bug

TM78: Bulldoze

TM80: Rock Slide

TM81: X-Scissor

TM83: Infestation

TM87: Swagger
TM88: Sleep Talk

TM89: U-Turn

TM90: Substitute
TM94: Secret Power

TM95: Snarl

HM01: Cut

HM04: Strength

HM06: Rock Smash

Tutor moves:

Snore

Super Fang

Endeavor

Foul Play

Superpower

Knock Off
Bug Bite
Covet
Signal Beam

Dual Chop
Snatch

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Antonize: the Merciless Pokémon

Bug/Dark-type

70 HP | 120 Atk | 60 Def | 60 SpA | 60 SpD | 110 Spe || BST: 480

Abilities: Swarm  or  Rivalry

Hidden Ability (Available): Unnerve

Evolves from Antagon starting at level 30.

Design: Antonize, similarly, has 4 legs and four tentacle-like appendages rising out of its back, similar in appearance and function of Antagon's.  Antonize body is much larger than Antagon's, with its legs getting larger to support it.  Antonize mandibles grow together, forming a large, sharp beak.  Antagon's spot on its back is replaced with a large 3-clawed slash mark.  One of the most noticeable differences between Antagon and Antonize is Antonize's large, scorpion-like tail that is almost as long as its entire body length.  The tail ends in a large spike at the end, with two smaller spikes branching off near the base.   

Drawing by TinyMeowMix: gyazo.com/1a85201619091d8433264ebc846216c8

Physical details:

Height (at shoulder): 2'11" (0.9m)

Weight: 37 lbs (17 kg) [40 BP]

Egg Group: Bug

Gender Ratio: 50% Male, 50% Female

Pokedex Color: Black

Technical details:

Catch Rate: 45 (5.9%)

Hatch Time: 5355 - 5609 steps

Base Experience Yield: 168

Leveling Rate: Medium Fast

Base Friendship: 35

EV Yield: 2 ATK

Pokédex entries:

OR: Antonize become the leaders of Antagon swarms by defeating the previous leader.  Antonize are rarely in power for more than a few months.

AS: Antonize always get the pleasure of striking down their prey after the Antagon have immobilized it. Its favorite food is Snorlax.

Level-up moves:

Start: Fury Cutter

Start: Scratch

Start: Night Slash

Start: Bug Bite

Start: Leer

Level 21: Bite

Level 26: Cross Poison

Level 29: Fell Stinger

Level 33: Knock Off

Level 38: X-Scissor

Level 42: Knock Off

Level 49: Crunch

Level 53: Swords Dance

TM/HM moves:

TM01: Hone Claws

TM02: Dragon Claw

TM06: Toxic

TM10: Hidden Power

TM12: Taunt

TM15: Hyper Beam

TM17: Protect

TM27: Return

TM28: Dig

TM32: Double Team

TM40: Aerial Ace
TM42: Facade

TM44: Rest

TM45: Attract

TM46: Thief

TM49: Echoed Voice

TM54: False Swipe

TM56: Fling

TM63: Embargo

TM65: Shadow Claw

TM66: Payback

TM68: Giga Impact

TM76: Struggle Bug

TM78: Bulldoze

TM80: Rock Slide

TM81: X-Scissor

TM82: Dragon Tail 

TM83: Infestation

TM84: Poison Jab

TM87: Swagger
TM88: Sleep Talk

TM89: U-Turn

TM90: Substitute
TM94: Secret Power

TM95: Snarl

HM01: Cut

HM04: Strength

HM06: Rock Smash

Egg moves:
Bug Bite: Caterpie, Metapod, Butterfree, Weedle, Kakuna, Beedrill, Ariados, Pineco, Forretress, Shuckle, Wurmple, Silcoon, Beautifly, Cascoon, Dustox, Ninjask, Kricketot, Kricketune, Burmy, Mothim, Combee, Skorupi, Drapion, Yanmega, Sewaddle, Swadloon, Leavanny, Venipede, Whirlipede, Scoliopede, Dwebble, Crustle, Joltik, Galvantula, Durant, Larvesta, Volcarona, Scatterbug.

Close Combat: Heracross
Fury Attack: Beedrill, Heracross, Karrablast, Escavalier
Quick Attack: Scyther, Scizor, Yanma, Yanmega, Gligar, Gliscor
Feint Attack: Gligar, Gliscor, Trapinch, Vibrava, Flygon, Dwebble, Crustle

Thunder Fang: Drapion, Gliscor, Durant
Endure: Heracross, Sewaddle, Swadloon, Leavanny, Karrablast, Escavalier

Tutor moves:

Snore

Super Fang

Endeavor

Foul Play

Superpower

Knock Off

Bug Bite

Covet

Signal Beam

Dual Chop

Snatch
Iron Tail
Aqua Tail
Outrage

[godfather4]

I got design questions:
how do you think this large retractable claws fit inside a tentacle? The tentacle would need to be too large dont ya think?
Also, but not that much important, a claw need a rigid structure to be able to transfer its strenght. A tentacle seems to kinda nullify this.

My opinion: (i have no intention to be rude!)
You kinda asking for "inception". Bugs skeleton is on the outside, so you say we put a hole in the skeleton for the tentacles and later a hole in the tentacles for the skeleton to come out of it but wait, the skeleton is already on the outside omfg Mind-blown.

[Cyberknight98]

Apr 27, 2015 21:25:37 GMT 1 godfather4 said:

I got design questions:
how do you think this large retractable claws fit inside a tentacle? The tentacle would need to be too large dont ya think?
Also, but not that much important, a claw need a rigid structure to be able to transfer its strenght. A tentacle seems to kinda nullify this.

My opinion: (i have no intention to be rude!)
You kinda asking for "inception". Bugs skeleton is on the outside, so you say we put a hole in the skeleton for the tentacles and later a hole in the tentacles for the skeleton to come out of it but wait, the skeleton is already on the outside omfg Mind-blown.

Lol, I suppose you have a point... I basically wanted it to be like an arm, but more... tentacle...y...idk, like shuckle's appendages.  

[mancco]

If its the 'Swarm' pokemon, shouldn't it have Swarm as it's primary ability? Also nice movepool

[Cyberknight98]

Apr 27, 2015 21:38:20 GMT 1 mancco said:

If its the 'Swarm' pokemon, shouldn't it have Swarm as it's primary ability? Also nice movepool

Again, the movepool will be coming.  I'd prefer actual constructive criticism instead of nitpicking and calling out things I've already said I'd add soon.

[Cyberknight98]

Update: Added a TON of stuff. Movepools, Learnable TM's, Hatch time, gender ratios, egg groups and more have all been added, including a little doodle of what hardahfal looks like.

[jaywad]

The doodle is pretty cool if it's gonna look like that But i got a few questions on its move pool. There are so few moves that don't attack. You only have swords dance. Maybe if u added things like string shot, torment, taunt, and other things, then it'll blend in to a great movepool Overall I gotta say I'm looking forward to them

[Cyberknight98]

Thank you for your support, Jaywad I'll probably add some more support moves too

[jaywad]

Also your dex entry for hardahfel gave me chills   They eat snorlax!? 

[Cyberknight98]

I wanted to make them super vicious and cruel, especially to much larger pokemon.

[Galom]

Simplify the names a bit. Those are a fucking mouthful for a game targeted at children. Most Pokémon, barring Legendaries, have very simple names. Also, don't give them a custom ability that you have not yet gotten them approved in the Ability section of the forum.

[Cyberknight98]

Their names are play on words of: "The bigger they are, the harder they fall" which ties into their pokedex entries on them defeating much larger opponents through sheer numbers.

[Cyberknight98]

Not to mention, both are only 3 syllables long.

[Galom]

To be blunt, I think you're trying too hard with that name. Give it a name that reflects the fact that it is a bug and reflects the fact that it is a savage. It's impossible to tell when just looking at it that that's what you meant.

[biaf]

If Destructive Force gets approved, Hardahfal is waaay too light.

[Cyberknight98]

I'll likely change the weight a little, but remember that destructive force only works on pokemon that are DOUBLE its weight or more. I'll still likely increase the weight of hardahfal tho.

[Cyberknight98]

Soo... Snaquaza? You haven't said anything on this pokemon line yet... any thoughts?

[Galom]

Tagging Snaquaza for opinions, since you didn't in your last post. I am not stamping this yet. I think it still needs a lot more work.

The good:
- I like the typing.
- I like the concept of a "warrior ant".
- Swarm fits it well.

I don't like:
- The names simply don't sound like Pokémon at all.
- The pre-evolved form's stats do not "project" the evolved form's stats. They contrast sharply without much explanation.
- The evolved form's stats are very similar to Durant, the only pre-existing ant Pokemon.
- The signature Ability just seems out of place. Swarm fits this Pokemon's theme of "outnumbering to defeat larger opponents" very well, and should probably be the primary Ability, and I think you should assign something else as the Hidden.

So... yeah. I implore you to change the names, before anything else. The degree to which I am against them cannot be exaggerated, which is disappointing, as I feel that your Pokemon has potential, it's just not developed yet.

[Cyberknight98]

Alright, Alright... I'll see about changing the names

[Cyberknight98]

How bout that, Galom?

Antagon which is a combination of Ant and Antagonize

And Antonize which is a combination of Ant and Agonize

[Cyberknight98]

Bumping and tagging @snackismybae and Snaquaza for final approval or whatever changes needed.

[Galom]

Clean up the appearance of the OP. Use examples from threads that have already been approved. Use bold in the correct places, have the right spacing, and use the right text size.

Once you're done, I'll either stamp, reject, or tell you to improve it.

[Cyberknight98]

Massive Update.

[Floette]

35 Sp. Attack for a final Evo is too low for a Pokémon that originally had more Sp. Attack than Defence and Special Defence. Most Pokémon keep their highest and lowest stats as the same kind of stat (i.e. highest is HP for both) after they evolve.

[Cyberknight98]

Ah, good point, Floette. I've fixed it..