evilklefki
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I bet you can't guess my favorite pokemon >:3
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 15, 2015 0:37:53 GMT 1
Grimstone the gravestone pokemon Rock/Ghost type 60/85/115/85/115/28 BST: 488 Grimstone, the gravestone pokemon. Genderless
This pokemon has large, menacing-looking eyes, A gaping mouth, and a generally angry-looking appearance. it is a gray, slightly weathered tombstone from long ago with a small crack in its upper left. DEX ENTRIES: Grimstone, the gravestone pokemon. Ancient legends tell that pokemon with very strong will can return from the dead as this pokemon. Grimstone, the gravestone pokemon. one must be cautious when approaching this pokemon, as they have a very vengeful and spiteful nature.
Abilities: Aftermath, Unnerve, Cursed Body
Quick sprite art sketch by some awesome guy named killercarrot25: guan-the-ludicolo.deviantart.com/art/a-request-539605716?ga_submit_new=10%253A1434296442 MOVEPOOL:
Levelling up Start: Spite Start: Shadow Sneak 5:Astonish 7:Confuse Ray 9:Scary Face 12:Curse 15:Shadow Sneak 19:Destiny Bond 23: Mean Look 27:Ominous Wind 32:Will-O-Wisp 35:Grudge 38:Disable 44:Shadow Ball 47:Grudge 50:Pain Split 53: MEMEnto 56:Ancient Power
TM moves: 06Toxic 10 Hidden Power 12 Taunt 15 Hyper Beam 17 Protect 21 Frustration 27 Return 30 Shadow Ball 32 Double Team 33 Reflect 37 Darude-Sandstorm 39 Rock Tomb 41 Torment 42 Façade 44 Rest 48 Round 61 Will-O-Wisp 63 Embargo 66 Payback 68 Giga Impact 69 Rock Polish 70 Flash 71 Stone Edge 80 Rock Slide 85 Dream Eater 87 Swagger 88 Sleep Talk 90 Substitute 94 Secret Power 95 Snarl 97 Dark Pulse 100 Confide HMS: 04 Strength 08 Rock Smash
Move Tutor moves: Skill Swap Spite Endeavor Magic Coat Stealth Rock Foul Play Snore Snatch Block
Catch Rate: 85
Base Happiness:35 Egg Group: Mineral Gender Ratio: genderless Hatch time: N/A Levelling rate: Medium/Fast Base Experience Yeild: 100 Dex Color: Grat special thanks to hawkie for coming up with the awesome dex entries and idea of aftermath as an ability n_n
Thanks for reading! ^-^ I am open to all contributions, suggestions, and recommended changes on this little guy! well I guess I can't call it that cause it's genderless... eh, whatevah. Let me know if you like it or if you have and thoughts or suggestions
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Post by Salient on Jun 15, 2015 0:46:28 GMT 1
>MEMEnto
I think it looks pretty good, not similar to Spiritomb so that's good. Shall comment more later.
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txnnyo
Charmeleon
you forgot your floaties...
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Post by txnnyo on Jun 15, 2015 0:51:32 GMT 1
Not bad, pretty good and not that similar to other ghost types and has unique typing. Don't forget to add BST and maybe add what number TM is which [not necessary though]. Design is pretty good as well. :]
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evilklefki
Charmeleon
I bet you can't guess my favorite pokemon >:3
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 15, 2015 0:52:57 GMT 1
>MEMEnto I think it looks pretty good, not similar to Spiritomb so that's good. Shall comment more later. Don't judge me for my dank MEMEnetos ;-; otherwise thanks bruh
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Post by Devoxys on Jun 15, 2015 1:50:17 GMT 1
I think you are overdoing it with the moves. 2 moves at level 80 suggests that, so does they wide level-up moves. Early Destiny Bond, Memento, SD, Will-O-Wisp etc. Don't forget you still have the egg moves to do.
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evilklefki
Charmeleon
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 15, 2015 1:56:39 GMT 1
I think you are overdoing it with the moves. 2 moves at level 80 suggests that, so does they wide level-up moves. Early Destiny Bond, Memento, SD, Will-O-Wisp etc. Don't forget you still have the egg moves to do. I said like 3 times that it's genderless. it's spelled MEMEnto and level 70 is nowhere close to an "early" level. a lot of ghost types learn will-o-wisp at low levels, sometimes even before they evolve as with Yamask. level 59 is just sort of mid-leveled tbh, and it isn't like OP or anything. who's even gonna use that anyway? even in a story playthrough it's bad.
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Post by Devoxys on Jun 15, 2015 1:59:07 GMT 1
Early only applies to Destiny Bond. But js, I feel like you are trying to fit more moves than you can onto a Pokemon.
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evilklefki
Charmeleon
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 15, 2015 2:04:26 GMT 1
well I mean, besides will-o-wisp, all of these moves fit with the concept of the mon being vengeful and spiteful and stuff. if it fits with the concept, who cares if it's too much? actual pokemon move that makes sense with the pokemon it's on, woo! i'll think about it, but I doubt i'm changing anything
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evilklefki
Charmeleon
I bet you can't guess my favorite pokemon >:3
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 15, 2015 2:07:12 GMT 1
but tbf, I asked snaq if learning Dbond at level 20 was ridiculous and he said nah it's fine
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Post by Hounds on Jun 15, 2015 2:53:03 GMT 1
Ayy, not bad man. You've got a good start so far. I would add the BST just so it's easier for the reader to see what it is instead of calcing it. I would also add the catch rate for the mon. If you need help coming up with a catch rate, I can certainly help you out. Just pm me on PS.
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Dylas
Charmeleon
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Post by Dylas on Jun 15, 2015 2:55:01 GMT 1
How about Rock Tomb and Slide for Tms for this thing? They are tms.
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evilklefki
Charmeleon
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 15, 2015 2:57:12 GMT 1
How about Rock Tomb and Slide for Tms for this thing? They are tms. tbh what will that do for it but clutter its movepool with filler
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Dylas
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Post by Dylas on Jun 15, 2015 2:59:41 GMT 1
But don't Tms need to match the Pokemon. It makes sense since it is Rock Type. Most pokemon have horrible TMs because of its typing.
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evilklefki
Charmeleon
I bet you can't guess my favorite pokemon >:3
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 15, 2015 3:08:34 GMT 1
But don't Tms need to match the Pokemon. It makes sense since it is Rock Type. Most pokemon have horrible TMs because of its typing. I just think it has enough horrible filler already :/
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Post by fangame10 on Jun 15, 2015 3:20:02 GMT 1
MEMEento....this poke is amaze
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evilklefki
Charmeleon
I bet you can't guess my favorite pokemon >:3
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 15, 2015 3:41:46 GMT 1
had a feeling i'd get that sometime soon
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Post by chundermunch on Jun 15, 2015 3:49:40 GMT 1
I really like the idea of a gravestone mon, and the names are cool too. A few suggestions though- 1. Make sure the art doesnt look too close to a diglett. 2. Its attack is too low. All mons with an attack stat of 30 are NFE. 3. You should add more rock moves to its movepool.
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evilklefki
Charmeleon
I bet you can't guess my favorite pokemon >:3
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 15, 2015 4:06:57 GMT 1
Update: made bulkier and took a little advice from ^.
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Post by Salient on Jun 15, 2015 4:20:26 GMT 1
I just noticed the change in Defenses.
110 HP / 100 Def / 100 SpD
I feel like this could be broken, but Idk.
I like the heavy drop in speed, though. It is a gravestone after all.
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evilklefki
Charmeleon
I bet you can't guess my favorite pokemon >:3
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 15, 2015 14:59:18 GMT 1
just do /weak ghost/rock and you'll know why it isn't broken. I also am considering replacing solid rock with prankster, just to sort of hinder its bulkniness but make it more viable as a bulky support/disruption.
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Post by Tazonite on Jun 16, 2015 13:21:35 GMT 1
Why do people feel their Pokemon is so special that they need to learn moves past level 70 or something? Usually, Game Freak only does that with previous Pokemon or special late-game Pokemon. it honestly looks like an attempt to get its movepool to be as big as possible.
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evilklefki
Charmeleon
I bet you can't guess my favorite pokemon >:3
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 16, 2015 13:28:39 GMT 1
Why do people feel their Pokemon is so special that they need to learn moves past level 70 or something? Usually, Game Freak only does that with previous Pokemon or special late-game Pokemon. it honestly looks like an attempt to get its movepool to be as big as possible. if everyone does this like you're implying, isn't it not special, not a big deal at all, and not something you have to whine about? so what if I want a big movepool? is that somehow badd now?
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evilklefki
Charmeleon
I bet you can't guess my favorite pokemon >:3
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Post by evilklefki on Jun 16, 2015 13:29:41 GMT 1
and it only learns 2 moves after 80, so i don't see how i'm a criminal or anything.
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Post by Level 51 on Jun 16, 2015 13:56:50 GMT 1
Base 5 speed is pretty anomalous for a Pokemon besides Shuckle, I'd suggest making it like min. ~20 or 25. I get that it's a gravestone so it can't move much but Nosepass is also literally a rock and even it has base 30 speed. 110/100/100 bulk is also ridiculously good, I think you underestimate just how bulky that is. If I were you I'd bring the HP down to like 80 or something.
Like Devoxys and Tazonite have said, the movepool seems a bit packed. I'd suggest trying to thin it out; having a movepool go up to 80 for a Pokemon which isn't a pseudo-legendary or legendary is pretty ridiculous, lol. Also please number your TMs and put them in order ;_; and don't forget stuff like Confide.
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Post by kizzo212 on Jun 16, 2015 14:06:25 GMT 1
I do agree that maybe the level-up movepool is a little bit excessive. You could do things like removing rock throw and make it learn rock blast a little bit earlier, if it doesnt have any things to actually throw the rock with then it probably wouldnt learn it (e.g. Roggenrola) and i'm not too sure if power gem really suits it. Also, there is only one ghost type that can learn bite (froslass and even then probably only because snorunt gets it) and none that can learn super fang, so maybe they should be taken out as well. And I don't see any reason why you shouldn't put rock tomb and rock slide as TMs. It literally is almost a "rock tomb" after all. TMs dont have to all be viable. If it should learn it, it should learn it, and if you get the Rock Tomb TM early on then it would be a nice move for it to have until it learns rock blast or something. Other than the movepool it seems really cool, but at the end of the day this is just my opinion.
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