[ti]Approved[/ti]Grimstone

[Snaquaza]

Galom, I'm wondering why you wanted the Exp Growth to Medium Fast?

[Level 51]

So evilklefki were you gonna remove Solid Rock or...? Given that it's generally given to Pokemon with tough armor (Camerupt, Rhyperior, Carracosta), I don't really see it going well with a literal rock, haha. Magic Room and Wonder Room don't seem terribly flavorful either. Calm Mind doesn't make much sense either; I picture this Pokemon being a lot like Gengar, which doesn't actually get Calm Mind.

Also, I noticed some TMs are still missing :3 Maybe you should really number your TM moves so you can actually see which ones are missing (Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Sandstorm, Will-O-Wisp, Round, perhaps also Torment, Shadow Claw, and Thief as well but those are more of your call). There are probably more as well, you should really go through the list and pick out everything that fits. n_n

[Devoxys]

evilklefki With your logic pretty much every Rock Type should get Solid Rock and Rock will become the best type in the game.

[evilklefki]

lol when did I ever say that

[Ace]

Mmk, there are a few changes that need to be made. I actually think Solid Rock should go since it really is given to armoured Pokemon, like L51 said, moves like Calm Mind and whatever doesn't fit a Gravestone Pokemon need to go as well. Make those changes and I will re-read it before stamping approval.

[evilklefki]

Jun 17, 2015 23:12:55 GMT 1 Ace said:

Mmk, there are a few changes that need to be made. I actually think Solid Rock should go since it really is given to armoured Pokemon, like L51 said, moves like Calm Mind and whatever doesn't fit a Gravestone Pokemon need to go as well. Make those changes and I will re-read it before stamping approval.

Can I put prankster? Or is that like not allowed

[evilklefki]

Ace done :>

[Galom]

Jun 17, 2015 7:05:07 GMT 1 Snaquaza said:

Galom, I'm wondering why you wanted the Exp Growth to Medium Fast?

Because the BST is pretty low. Generally Med-Slow is for 480-520 or so, as far as I am aware.

[Ace]

Thought I might as well do this now to avoid another 50 highlights >.>. Anyway you've changed all the stuff I've had gripes with. This just needs a little polishing and it's set, I also like the sprite. Approved 2/3.

[evilklefki]

sorry :< and thanks :>

[evilklefki]

now all I need to do is annoy the crrrap out of Snaquaza xD jk

[Psych]

I would add Rock Slide, Sandstorm, and Shadow Claw to TMs. Would fit the mon better.

[kizzo212]

Few quick points, but other than these it seems really good.
- I think there was some sort of "rule" for base exp, where for a 2nd stage pokemon or a 1 stage only pokemon, to work out the base exp you would take its BST, multiply by 7 and divide by 20, which comes out as 170. I haven't checked if that's the exact rule though, so someone correct me if I'm wrong. (You also spelt yield as yeild, very minor but may as well change it)
- The level at which it learns moves seems a bit erratic, such as learning D-bond at 20 and then Mean Look at 21, same story with Disable and Snatch, and Confuse Ray and Scary Face. This may well have been the style that you were going for, but for me it's just a bit too random, and I'd say at least leave a 2 level gap between learning moves.
- I'm not too sure if Tackle suits it, with it being pretty immobile and all. It's not a starter, and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be an early-mon in the game, so it doesn't need to start off with a normal type move, especially as its a ghost type. It might be worth replacing Tackle with Shadow Sneak or something, and then moving the other moves around a little bit to fill the gap left by Shadow Sneak between level 10 and 20. You could do this by moving Scary Face to level 10, Curse to level 13, and then moving Destiny Bond down to around level 18 or something, also solving the 2 levels 2 moves issue.
- You could possibly consider Night Shade as a move it could learn, and if you want to keep the levelling system the same, it could either replace tackle or have it fill the gap where shadow sneak would be if you choose to replace tackle with shadow sneak, as it is the first attacking moves a few ghost types (e.g. Duskull) learns.
Think that's it. Whether you take these suggestions on board is up to you, but if you don't a quick justification as to why would be nice.

[Snaquaza]

Before I'm checking, I want the TM/HM moves in order and numbered. If that's done I can do my work.

Edit: Galom, Experience curve is a combination of flavor of how quick it would learn, plus a bit of strength. Most Pokemon that appear stronger are in this group, but they don't have to be that strong BST-wise, they can also have substantial things that make them notable. This can be seen in Absol, Cacturne, Chatot, Wigglytuff, and some other stuff.

[evilklefki]

I don't even... Freakin fine.

[evilklefki]

Snaquaza, my body is ready.

[evilklefki]

Uh, Snaquaza ....... it's been like 4 weeks or something

[evilklefki]

Jun 18, 2015 14:51:34 GMT 1 Psych said:

I would add Rock Slide, Sandstorm, and Shadow Claw to TMs. Would fit the mon better.

because a gravestone has claws

[Psych]

Oh right, Shadow Claw is not a fitting move lol.

Do you have any Egg moves? Add those and who they come from.  

It's genderless nvm. 

Movepool is spread out enough for me, it differs from Spiritomb pretty good, and the BST isn't too OP.  

Approved 2.5/3 or 3/4 

[evilklefki]

Level 51

[Level 51]

evilklefki
Quick check because I need to go soon, if you would like more rationale for any of these changes please tag me. This should be most of it but tag me again so I can have a final look-see.

Remove Perish Song from level-up. Rocks don't sing. (Then move Grudge / Pain Split / Memento / Ancient Power up a slot each)
Remove Light Screen from TM (lack of precursor: most Ghost-types don't get Light Screen)
Remove Retaliate from TM (lack of precursor: most Ghost-types don't get Retaliate)
Remove Flash from TM (no visible source of light to Flash)
Remove Nature Power from TM (not natural enough)
Remove Magic Room and Wonder Room from tutor moves (again, lack of precursor)
Remove Magic Coat from tutor moves
Remove Gravity from tutor moves
Consider removing Trick from tutor moves

Add Snore to tutor moves
Consider adding Smack Down to TM
Consider adding Block to tutor moves
Consider adding Snatch to tutor moves

[evilklefki]

Level 51 i'm keeping flash cause a lot of other things get it but make no sense for similar reasons, such as torterra and darkrai, the DARNESS pokemon. otherwise, ok done

[evilklefki]

Wait no i'm not adding smackdown because it has plenty of awful rock type filler already

[kizzo212]

One more isn't going to hurt. Golurk learns magic coat. Do gengars sing?

[Level 51]

evilklefki

32:Will-O-Wisp
38:Grudge
39:Disable
41:Snatch
44:Shadow Ball
51:Grudge
56:Pain Split
63: MEMEnto
68:Ancient Power

Your level spacing is too erratic. Please change levels to something like 32/35/38/41/44/47/50/53/56.

Once you do that, Approved 3/3